New cypher and crown
 

Following the sad news of the passing of Her Majesty, I was wondering at what point the cyphers and crowns on Regimental insignia will be changed to reflect Charles III ? I know that badges were produced for Edward VIII ( were they actually worn or intended to be worn at the coronation- which never happened) ?

The Badge Forum might to make a tribute on the death of Queen Elizabeth II...........

I would think that badges won't see a change in cypher and crown until after the King's Coronation, which will probably be sometime next year. Same with stamps, currency, medals for the monarchs head etc
Billyh
God Save the King
Imagine having to mourn in public

I am due to a Long Service Medal (actually The Cadet Force Medal) in December of this year. Will be interesting to see whether I get an Elizabeth II or Charles III version, technically it should be a Charles III version but we will see ....

Pau;

I wonder if a Coronation medal for serving personnel, like the Queens Jubilee medals?

I suppose on of the first bits of military uniform to change will be an issue of a coronation medal. If the precedent of the last 3 Jubilee medals is followed; that would be a broader issue than the previous coronation medal (circa 1953) and presumably the head will face the opposite way to the late Queen’s (I.e. left facing as you look at them).

You little gong hunter, you??

I wonder if the crown will be changed? Perhaps some changes will curtailed due to cost as there are so many possible ones. At any rate, I am sure it will be a long time to replace nearly seventy years of heraldry throughout Britain and the Commonwealth.


CB

You can never have medals Toby . . .



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Wouldn’t know, i was only a STAB.

Anyway, with your dodgy legs, the extra weight on your chest might just be too much for you to stay upright.

I’m seeing this on the internet as the new Royal Cypher.

It appears the crown remains the same as the ERII Royal Cypher.

Mick

Some british newspapers published a photo of CRIII wearing "his new Royal Cypher" during the proclamation on saturday.
What i see is a presentation-tie-pin with the cypher of his grandfather, Georg VI ?

Regards
Markus

Three versions published in the newspapers so far…. one from the Sun, the Mail went for broken R one and the Express for the tie pin the King wore yesterday. The press never lies so he must be using at least three using both crowns.

The tie pin says GVIR. It's his grandfather's cypher.

King Charles III new cypher
 

Hi Guy's, Can't see how that broken R could be made into a metal badge/title,

As there is nothing to attach the bottom leg to.

Would work ok in Embroidery though.... back to the drawing board!

best regards John

Definitely looks like it . ;)

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King's cypher???
 

Thought this may be of interest.
Tony.

It's his Grandfathers cypher, not his own.

Dave.

Ah I see the "G" now.
Tony.

The new Cypher revealed

Very nice, but I m now thinking of all the new badges I am going to have to buy!!!

But ain't that what he hobby is all about!

Terry

Is this official, or another possible version from the media? If it is official, I like it. A bit different from others. The KC is back.

CB

"On 26 September 2022, Buckingham Palace unveiled the cypher of the new king, Charles III, that will gradually replace the cypher of Elizabeth II in everyday use. The design was selected by Charles from a series of designs prepared by the College of Arms and features the King's initial "C" intertwined with the letter "R" for Rex with "III" denoting Charles III, with a Tudor Crown above the letters. Charles's Scottish cypher uses the Scottish Crown instead."
Wikipedia was updated this morning with the text above.
Regards
Markus

Well the good news is that the Army is so small and there are much fewer cap badges than 20 years ago!

The MoD will no doubt be clearing their stocks of obsolete EIIR QC badges etc., with dealers flooding the market with their redundant MoD auction bulk buys.

Dave.

Possibly although I suspect that under RAB the stocks are not large and will be wasted out.

At last, I won’t need to spend months tracking down EIIR cyphers to complete shoulder boards to finish off a display. :D

The Grenadier Guards will need a new design, cypher and possibly crown, but I wonder if the Scots Guards will continue with the Queens/Scottish crown?

Rob

Interestingly, the Garter King of Arms has said publicly that there is no requirement for "organisations" to change the design of their current Crown and Cypher. It is a matter for them to decide.

Dave.

Sounds like a tacit statement that expenses are recognized and changes not necessary?
I for one look forward to seeing the changes coming up as the new cypher is very nice. The GG comes to mind, along with Guards drum majors, Warders of the Tower etc. A very interesting time for insignia buffs.

CB

Charles III cypher
 

The King's cypher has been revealed. Tudor crown replaces the (Queen's) St. Edward's crown. I wonder if the military will issue new badges immediately or if stocks of the Queen's crown badges will be left to run out. Could be a costly exercise.

I am sure the changes will take time, with certain organizations, military and civil, to have some precedence.

CB

I'm not sure changes will happen. Has it been written officially anywhere that badges etc will change? I think given the massive cost involved that governments may not change insignia etc.

Mick

Hello all,

The kings cypher and image

Regards

Ken (The Fatboy)

Attachment 273953 Attachment 273954

This Cypher for King Charles was shown in some Newspapers.

The cypher was revealed on the BBC five days ago. (posted in other cypher thread)

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...3&postcount=25

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I had made this query as well. Although some changes must be made, I wonder if some may be dispensed with due to the cost.

CB

Read post No;- 29 in this thread.

Dave.

Several new Kings Crown badges appearing on ebay, I presume that none of them are "issue"?

Rob

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295277615598

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125566404441

Hi Rob,

The RAF officers badge is a real piece of s**t. It's the same fake King George one that he's always sold, he's just trying to cash in.