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Trubia26 06-01-21 12:02 AM

Hertfordshire yeomanry
 
Hello! I am reading threads trying to learn about british badges and I have seen a really beautiful one, the hertfordshire yeomanry!...but I read too that there are thousand copies of this badge...I don't know if is a scarce and expensive badge or a common one...so I have been searching in here (none for sale) and out there (a lot of!!)...what do you think about these three examples? Not expensive and really beautiful...but legit? Thanks!
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/1b48849e...9edd7d2c2o.jpg
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/2ed5112c...7bac33723o.jpg
http://thumbs.subefotos.com/0355eea0...3df3398f3o.jpg

Luke H 06-01-21 01:20 AM

The badges you show are not Herts Yeomanry.

That type I believe features in Cox’s book and is spuriously attributed to a Junior Division OTC, if I recall correctly. However his attribution has been called into doubt.

Personally I would not buy any badge from that die and regard them all as modern, post 1970s manufacture.

There are several helpful threads showing members Herts Yeo badges, Orasot is the forum’s resident Herts aficionado as has several lovely examples. My personal preference with Herts Yeos are for the Woodward made ones or those found on the long slim slider often with a ‘grey’ coloured braze. You won’t go far wrong with an example of either of those.

Trubia26 06-01-21 01:51 AM

I think you are talking about the badge with short antlers. Right? The one of the picture I found posted in another thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltigeur (Post 401657)
© IWM (H 39209)
Wounded British troops, evacuated from the Normandy beaches

http://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/44/773...at=photographs


Frank Kelley 06-01-21 08:17 AM

I would certainly be very keen to see any original Great War period examples if any members have them.

Alan O 06-01-21 09:32 AM

These are all fakes made in huge numbers. The design is one based on a post war officers' badge design. The brass ones are all (and I mean all) fakes.

Trubia26 06-01-21 10:33 AM

What a pity...because they are pretty nice ...well...as always, really happy for asking here...thanks a lot for your usefull help!

Frank Kelley 06-01-21 12:52 PM

Could you clarify that, are you saying the badges in the original post are all fakes, or, are you saying that the Hertfordshire Yeomanry never actually worn the badge in GM?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 534304)
These are all fakes made in huge numbers. The design is one based on a post war officers' badge design. The brass ones are all (and I mean all) fakes.


Keith Blakeman 06-01-21 03:11 PM

That Normandy photo is interesting, looks very similar to the RV/Berkamstead School badge.

Alan O 06-01-21 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 534323)
Could you clarify that, are you saying the badges in the original post are all fakes, or, are you saying that the Hertfordshire Yeomanry never actually worn the badge in GM?

Both.

cbuehler 06-01-21 04:31 PM

The badge on the beret in the photo has a different and deeper water base. Not to be confused with the fake badges in question. Almost looks like a collar badge?

CB

Trubia26 06-01-21 04:41 PM

Yo can see too here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltigeur (Post 404933)

© IWM (HU 121928)
Lieutenant Robert Cholmley Faulconer MC. Hertfordshire Yeomanry, attached to the XXI Corps Cavalry Regiment

http://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/396/93...at=photographs


Trubia26 06-01-21 04:47 PM

Threads about this badge:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=18717

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=44789

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ead.php?t=2426

magpie 06-01-21 05:23 PM

2 Attachment(s)
This badge.

Frank Kelley 07-01-21 04:23 PM

Okay, so are both the example KK1448 and those gilding metal Woodward marked examples completely spurious then?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 534323)
Could you clarify that, are you saying the badges in the original post are all fakes, or, are you saying that the Hertfordshire Yeomanry never actually worn the badge in GM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 534348)
Both.


Luke H 07-01-21 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 534488)
Okay, so are both the example KK1448 and those gilding metal Woodward marked examples completely spurious then?

The Woodward marked badges are certainly genuine and period.


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