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silverwash 05-09-19 01:04 PM

Croot Syndrome
 
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mate of mine brought this completed ebay listing to my notice, 174006407028.
draws an interesting comparison with the BBC television programme.

wardog 05-09-19 01:41 PM

Link- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-AAC-G...QAAOSwiSZdXV7U Regards, Paul.

Luc 05-09-19 08:26 PM

The badge was sold by Military Trader run by the Flitters from Louth, quite well known for faking paperwork. My gut feeling is that it is a genuine badge, but with a fake envelope.

Compare the turned wooden support for this helmet:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174006403297?
With this one:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143362504979?

Luke H 05-09-19 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luc (Post 487834)
The badge was sold by Military Trader run by the Flitters from Louth, quite well known for faking paperwork. My gut feeling is that it is a genuine badge, but with a fake envelope.

Compare the turned wooden support for this helmet:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174006403297?
With this one:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143362504979?

I agree re the badge, if that is a fake then the hobby would be in deep trouble! Personally I think it’s a beautiful badge and lovely quality - I actually like the back better than the front.

lifeochil 05-09-19 09:26 PM

If the paperwork is fake then what would the badge be worth because of the then lack of provenance?

Luke H 05-09-19 09:39 PM

Bosley’s boast here that they sold a 1942 dated one for £460 in January https://www.bosleys.co.uk/en-GB/77th...ces/blog_10034

Add fees and that’s about £570, but, at a specialist auction that often commands a premium.

On eBay I think most would be hoping to come in significantly below that price.

silverwash 05-09-19 11:11 PM

a definite attempt to ' Gild the lily ' and failing miserably.

realownlee 05-09-19 11:20 PM

Thought that had been 'Flittered,' nice to have what I suspected confirmed.

Frank Kelley 06-09-19 08:36 AM

Nice badge, but, not at that price actually paid.


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Originally Posted by wardog (Post 487807)


silverwash 07-09-19 04:42 PM

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but it gets worse, the stakes even higher. avid fans of Columbo will know the suspect always slips up.

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archiv...&lot_id=315039

Frank Kelley 07-09-19 05:26 PM

Was that particular lot spurious?


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Originally Posted by silverwash (Post 487945)
but it gets worse, the stakes even higher. avid fans of Columbo will know the suspect always slips up.

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archiv...&lot_id=315039


silverwash 08-09-19 03:36 PM

pros - the metal bits
cons - the rest

oc14 08-09-19 03:55 PM

The seller of the badge in the post that started this thread is well known in this part of the world. A local chap showed me a collection of medals that he had inherited recently. Amongst them was an Elizabeth II MM (Military Medal) named to a Corporal in the Royal Engineers - the recipient was killed in action during the First Gulf War whilst serving as a member of 22 SAS. I had to inform the chap that I knew for a fact that the MM that he owned wasn't original - the recipient was Godfather to my brother's eldest son and the original MM (accompanied by the GSM Northern Ireland and Gulf War Medal) are still safely in the possession of his family. The seller of the AAC badge was the source of the bogus MM.

PL

Frank Kelley 08-09-19 04:48 PM

Okay, given that "the rest" is the provenance, so a spurious lot then, I assume this was not pointed out to Nimrod Dix and the sale was not subsequently rescinded?

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Originally Posted by silverwash (Post 487993)
pros - the metal bits
cons - the rest


silverwash 09-09-19 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 488006)
Okay, given that "the rest" is the provenance, so a spurious lot then, I assume this was not pointed out to Nimrod Dix and the sale was not subsequently rescinded?

withdrawn no, rescinded ? given that the group appeared in auction over a year ago it is fortunate that the company has an auction archive as one would be none the wiser. the seller of the badge indicated in the listing that the medal group had been sold the previous year by a well known London medal auctioneer.


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