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Bill A 05-04-08 01:25 PM

2 Canadian Infantry Division formation patches
 
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A selection of officers patches to 2 Canadian Infantry Division. In WW2, the Canadian army intended to use the same colours as the WW1 Canadian Corps divisions. The WW1, 2nd Division used a dark, dark blue formation patch which proved to be very difficult to match in WW2. Several attempts were made to find appropriate tone of blue, but eventually the division settled on a medium blue tone. The officer's used the CII device on their patches. The CII was embroidered in bullion wire and in yellow thread. Examples exist in size back and with backing materials.
Two bullion wire examples attached as thumbnails. Note these were mostly hand embroidered, and thus there are differences to almost all the bullion wire patches.

Bill A 05-04-08 01:32 PM

2 CID embroidered patches
 
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A couple of examples of embroidered thread (as opposed to bullion wire) 2 CID patches. The first example is heavy embroidery while the second example is much finer.

bgpipes 05-04-08 02:35 PM

bgpipes
 
:) Gmornin Bill........Is there a canvas example of these 2 Div patches? it seems like ive seen one,somewhere.

Bill A 05-04-08 08:21 PM

Hello Bill, No official 2 CID patch in canvas with a CII exists. They were never made. I have an odd one, appears to be "theatre made" with the CII stencilled on a canvas like material. However, I am not confident that it is a good one.

bgpipes 05-04-08 09:02 PM

2cid (?")
 
Ciao Bill:), I also have one that appears to be neatly done,on a piece of blue canvas. I fell for it hook,line,and sinker,early in my collecting career, Oh well,live and learn.

Bill A 05-04-08 09:26 PM

Can you post an image of it?

GregN 05-04-08 10:56 PM

So Bill, only the officers issue have the CII on them, right?

G

Bill A 05-04-08 11:38 PM

Hi Greg, Yes that is my understanding. Other ranks may have worn them but would have risked the wrath of God if caught.

boots and saddles 06-04-08 07:26 PM

2nd Cdn Div Patch
 
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Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 8018)
Hi Greg, Yes that is my understanding. Other ranks may have worn them but would have risked the wrath of God if caught.

Bill, I've heard a story(and I believe it was My Supervisor in the Post Office,who was a Sgt. in the Toronto Scottish) that this was a patch to appease the Toronto Scottish when they were taken out of the !st Div & put in the 2nd,The officers & men were furious & the or's wouldn't wear them but the officers did,This fellow gave me his & he was a Sgt. the patch was melton.I foolishly gave it away in trade. Any truth to that? Ray

Bill A 06-04-08 07:56 PM

Hey Ray, That is a new one for me. Could he have meant the Tor Scots MG arrow patch?

boots and saddles 06-04-08 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 8103)
Hey Ray, That is a new one for me. Could he have meant the Tor Scots MG arrow patch?

Yes, you are right Bill . Right on. Come to think of it now it was the arrow patch. Ray

bgpipes 07-04-08 12:01 AM

2CID (?") My phony canvas copy
 
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My phony canvas one is on top!:D

Bill A 07-04-08 10:08 PM

Hi Bill, An interesting animal, that "officerized" printed patch. Could have been done by anybody at any time since 1943. It appears to have been painted rather than stenciled?

bgpipes 08-04-08 12:47 AM

Real McCoy!
 
I thought it was the real deal when I first got it, and I kept it with a small group of 2Div badges.

Dwayne H 08-04-08 01:54 PM

repro or unofficial
 
......as Bill suggested ...it could have been made by anyone since 1943. "If" it had been done in theatre by an officer...would it still be considered a phony or repro?

Dwayne


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