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Home Guard 26-01-21 02:59 AM

22nd Dragoon Badge - Good or Bad?
 
I am NOT interested in getting this badge, but am asking this question just for my own education. I think it is a fake based on the maker name on the slider. The name is in large letters, and the badge is metal. I would expect the large letters on an A/A badge but not a metal one. Am I right about this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-A...wAAOSwmOpgDaY7

Thank you,

Terry

Frank Kelley 26-01-21 08:52 AM

£29.99!:eek: a lot of money for a copy, I wonder if the seller knows?

That said, I think, these days, I would be happy to pay that for an original example!



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Originally Posted by Home Guard (Post 536439)
I am NOT interested in getting this badge, but am asking this question just for my own education. I think it is a fake based on the maker name on the slider. The name is in large letters, and the badge is metal. I would expect the large letters on an A/A badge but not a metal one. Am I right about this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-A...wAAOSwmOpgDaY7

Thank you,

Terry


49lassiepen 26-01-21 09:32 AM

Peter Seaman -FOR HOSTILITIES ONLY states Firmin made Think all my examples are Firmin
Noticed this badge has voided roman numerals and void above scroll ,most of the repros are none voided
David

Alan O 26-01-21 11:14 AM

Looking at the poor voiding with jagged edges then some one has been at it with a bad fretting saw or the like. the mark is 1950's or later.

49lassiepen 26-01-21 11:25 AM

Alan agree 100 %
David

Home Guard 26-01-21 01:48 PM

Thank you gentlemen, As I suspected, a fake.

Terry

mojob123 26-01-21 01:53 PM

Hi Terry. In reply to your question, this large font J.R.GAUNT LONDON maker mark is a genuine mark found on many single metal and bi metal badges post WW2 and on early anodised aluminium badges thereafter up to the 60s. Conveniently, it is found on some badges both with King's Crowns and Queen's Crowns making it fairly easy to date to late 40s/50s on metal badges. In the case of the badge in your link, clearly the unit and the maker mark are not contemporaneous. I think the slider is possibly genuine and has been added to the badge. Whether the badge is genuine or not I wouldn't like to say. Although a genuine maker mark, I have seen WW1 period badges offered for sale with what appear to be genuine large font Gaunt marked sliders. I have also seen badges with sliders that don't appear to be of the Gaunt style, but with this mark on them. These both seem to suggest that someone got hold of a quantity of seemingly genuine Gaunt marked sliders and possibly also got hold of, or made, a large font Gaunt stamp. So, with this mark, some prudence has to be applied before accepting it as a guarantee of a genuine badge. Mike

Sapper795 26-01-21 02:26 PM

Thanks terry for bringing this up, I would have thought this badge was genuine.
Have now learnt a bit more about this particular large font makers mark.
Regards
Chris

Cleeman 26-01-21 05:22 PM

It is one of my badges. Missed the makers mark. Now corrected.

Andy


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