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RNeil 27-07-19 09:26 PM

1 NZATTV Patch
 
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Shoulder patch of 1 New Zealand Army Training Team Vietnam (1NZATTV).

Based at Chi Lang from January 1971 to December 1972, the 25 strong 1 NZATTV helped train South Vietnamese platoon commanders in tactics and small-arms techniques.

This patch was worn on the left shoulder.


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atillathenunns 31-07-19 08:19 AM

Nice

Phill Lockett 01-08-19 06:21 PM

Thanks for showing

Hopefully I will add one to my Vietnam collection.

Phill

NZEF 02-08-19 04:10 AM

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Here is a NZ Army tape which was worn above the left breast shirt pocket by NZ trainers posted to 1NZATTV.
The screen printed cotton patch below depicts a flaming arrow set against the sacred seven mountains in the Delta region.
Some personnel were given honorary Vietnamese rank which was worn on the collar, NZ rank was also embroidered in black by some above the nametape on right chest.

RNeil 02-08-19 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NZEF (Post 485109)
Here is a NZ Army tape which was worn above the left breast shirt pocket by NZ trainers posted to 1NZATTV.
Some personnel were given honorary Vietnamese rank which was worn on the collar, NZ rank was also embroidered in black by some above the nametape on right chest.

Thanks for that here is a few pics of it altogether on a JG Shirt.

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akiko 02-08-19 05:13 AM

1) Are all of those made in-country?
2) How many Kiwis served in 1NZATTV?

NZEF 02-08-19 11:12 PM

I have always assumed their insignia were made in country, as the distinguishing patch is South Vietnamese & tapes in the US style of the time. Although likely, i could be wrong.
According to Thomas & Lord, 25 advisors were on the strength of 1NZATTV until they left in December 1972 & were replaced by 2NZATTV.

RNeil 02-08-19 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by akiko (Post 485113)
1) Are all of those made in-country?
2) How many Kiwis served in 1NZATTV?

Am unsure where these items were manufactured but I assume that it was in-country. As far as I know, this patch was only worn by 1 NZATTV.

New Zealand maintained three Training Teams in South Vietnam, 1 NZATTV, 2 NZATTV and a small team with the Australian Army Training Team (AATV).

As stated in my original post 1 NZATTV was Based at Chi Lang from January 1971 to December 1972 and had a strength of 25 with the role of training South Vietnamese platoon commanders in tactics and small-arms techniques
From Jan 71 to Dec 72, approximately 86 Kiwis would rotate through 1 NZATTV.

In March 1972 a second Training Team 2 NZATTV was established at Dong Ba Thin, close to Cam Ram Bay. 2 NZATTV had a strength of 18 and its role was to train Cambadioan Battalions.
From Mar 72 to Dec 72, approximately 32 Kiwis would rotate through 2 NZATTV.

The Third Training Team was attached to the Australian Army Training Team (AATV). Approximately 9 Kiwis would be attached to the ATTV.

akiko 03-08-19 12:26 AM

I knew they were there but not the numbers. Nice uniforms and patches. Thanks for the info, very interesting.

Phill Lockett 04-08-19 12:04 AM

Thanks guys

some rare NZ Vietnam era examples.

Can you advise what does the symbology stand for?

Phill

RNeil 04-08-19 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Phill Lockett (Post 485322)
Can you advise what does the symbology stand for?


Explanation of the symbology from Thomas and Lords Distinguishing Patch Book.

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Phill Lockett 04-08-19 01:46 AM

Thanks again

Phill

RNeil 04-08-19 02:34 AM

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The small enamelled Insignia as described in the Thomas/Lord book

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akiko 04-08-19 07:13 AM

Is that a beercan badge?

RNeil 04-08-19 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by akiko (Post 485335)
Is that a beercan badge?

My understanding is that the term "Beercan Badge" refers to locally-made badges using a thin gauge of metal that was similar to the beer cans of the Vietnam era, well this one is certainly made in South Vietnam and the metal is pretty thin, so yes it probably is a "Beercan badge"


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