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Anjoucollector 06-01-20 06:54 PM

Royal Artilley badge
 
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Good evening,

I think it could be a blazer badge (10 x 10 cm) but is it British ?

Laurent

grenadierguardsman 06-01-20 07:29 PM

Would be a bit big for a headdress badge.
Andy:p

Frank Kelley 06-01-20 08:43 PM

I think you are right, I would think it may well have been made in Great Britain, it certainly represents the British RA.

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Originally Posted by Anjoucollector (Post 496585)
Good evening,

I think it could be a blazer badge (10 x 10 cm) but is it British ?

Laurent


54Bty 07-01-20 04:07 PM

Personally I would tag it as Australian.

Marc

Anjoucollector 12-01-20 09:42 AM

Thank you for your advice. I have never seen before a mix of blue and red on a RA badge

Laurent

Artynut 13-01-20 12:06 AM

Neither have I here in Canada. (Yet)!

Toby Purcell 16-01-20 10:37 AM

A note of caution. There were a huge number of manufacturers in the past when compared with today and there were a surprising degree of manufacturers variations. London and Birmingham had many workshops producing such badges in bullion wire, and Lancashire was famous for less expensive types using coloured silks. Today there are very few made in the remaining U.K. workshops and the vast majority are made in Pakistan, China and Bangladesh. Queen Elizabeth has been the Sovereign since 1953, which I fully realise will be well known here, but my point is that virtually all the decline that I mention above has been during her reign, so the presence of a Saint Edward’s Crown on subject badge can be misleading. It could well be a British made badge, but from an obscure and long gone maker.

54Bty 16-01-20 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Purcell (Post 497485)
A note of caution. There were a huge number of manufacturers in the past when compared with today and there were a surprising degree of manufacturers variations. London and Birmingham had many workshops producing such badges in bullion wire, and Lancashire was famous for less expensive types using coloured silks. Today there are very few made in the remaining U.K. workshops and the vast majority are made in Pakistan, China and Bangladesh. Queen Elizabeth has been the Sovereign since 1953, which I fully realise will be well known here, but my point is that virtually all the decline that I mention above has been during her reign, so the presence of a Saint Edward’s Crown on subject badge can be misleading. It could well be a British made badge, but from an obscure and long gone maker.

I was going by the style of the piece (Cannon).

Marc

Frank Kelley 16-01-20 06:07 PM

The decline is a very sad state of affairs.

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Originally Posted by Toby Purcell (Post 497485)
A note of caution. There were a huge number of manufacturers in the past when compared with today and there were a surprising degree of manufacturers variations. London and Birmingham had many workshops producing such badges in bullion wire, and Lancashire was famous for less expensive types using coloured silks. Today there are very few made in the remaining U.K. workshops and the vast majority are made in Pakistan, China and Bangladesh. Queen Elizabeth has been the Sovereign since 1953, which I fully realise will be well known here, but my point is that virtually all the decline that I mention above has been during her reign, so the presence of a Saint Edward’s Crown on subject badge can be misleading. It could well be a British made badge, but from an obscure and long gone maker.


cbuehler 17-01-20 01:29 AM

Indeed, the quality of hand embroidered badges, whether metal or cotton, has plummeted to a very poor state in the past 50 or 60 years.
As Toby has mentioned, little has been made in the UK during this period and perhaps none of recent years.
In my opinion, the badge in question is likely of 60s or 70s vintage. After that, Mylar was typically used, an even further decline in quality of materials.

CB

Toby Purcell 17-01-20 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 54Bty (Post 497512)
I was going by the style of the piece (Cannon).

Marc

Yes, I can see exactly what you mean, Marc, and you may well be right, although I’ve seen all manner of variations over the years, both in colouration and design. Some small batches made up by obscure workshops in places such as Hong Kong and Singapore (native embroiderers by hand), were made up using cap badges or old drawings for inspiration (some of them Victorian), and with no knowledge of the correct colours to use.

grumpy 22-01-20 09:55 PM

Pedant alert.

I was going by the style of the piece (Cannon).

Yes and yes, but usually known as a gun in official badge publications such as the PVCNs, Clothing Regs and RACD ledgers that I have seen.

Frank Kelley 25-01-20 04:56 PM

I always refer to the standard RA cap badge as the gun pattern notwithstanding, a cannon is certainly a type of gun.


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