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These were collected as with my other commonwealth items, as part of larger lots. I have some reference material for South Africa and Rhodesia, again came in a box of books and from that have some doubts, wrong metals ect.
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Hi Neil,
Some nice SA badges there but also three copies/fakes that I can see that were produced in the 1970's long after these units were defunct.

The copies are:
Regiment President Steyn - should not have a slider (original ones had lugs)
SAMC Double scroll WWI period - Also should not have a slider (original ones only had lugs)
DEOVR white metal - No cutout around thistle is sign of a copy.

Regards
Steven

Hi Neil

Yes some very nice badges. Don't be put off by the cast ones, SA Forces used many of these. Looks like some were mounted on a board at some time, certain materials can blemish badges.

Is the DEOVR white metal or bronze, looks like bronze?

Brian

Brian
The DEOVR is white metal. Quite a few of the other wm badges also appear bronze, but I think this is oxidation from been on an exposed board for a long time.

Thank you Steven and Brian
I have a copy of The Military Badges of South Africa & Rhodesia by Colin R Owen that really is my only knowledge on the subject.
The DEOVR is made of G/M and unvoided so was one that I had marked as being wrong also the school cadet badge (springbok within a circlet) should be W/M but is G/M it can be difficult to see in a photo. The cast SATC (sept 41-march 43) I am not so concerned about it looks like a lot of bazaar made middle eastern / north african badges with flat copper loops

Neil

Forgot to mention Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek Politie badge it's G/M but I don't know what it's supposed to be made of

Neil

Neil,
The ZARP badge is spot on in g/m and was worn on a white colonial pattern helmet.

The School Cadets in g/m is actually a WWI SA Expeditionary force cap badge. This was the same badge as used by school cadets, except the cadets version was in white metal.

So both good.

Steven

Anybody know what the 'PSA' title is in post #3.
Also, what is the badge in the 3rd row on post #5.
Thanks, cheers,
Alex

Kenya Independent Squadron in post five.

Thanks Frank.