Guards Khaki Beret
Can anyone enlighten me as to when the Guards replaced their blue berets with the khaki version please?
Jon |
I have circa 1971. Might be wrong.
Marc |
And the badge backing in1989.
Edit: 2nd October 1989. |
Agree with Marc, adopted and issued in the early 1970s although apparently discussed and approved in the late 1960s. Likely that full supplies were needed to re-issue the Brigade at the same time (circa 6,000 berets?) There should be some photographic evidence out there!
Tim |
The dust jacket of "Forces 85" shows a Coldstream Guards Sgt ,brown beret ,no backing. Also normal stripes on his combats not the subdued type.
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An illustration/ colour plate in "Uniforms of the Foot Guards from 1661 to Present" by Bryan Fosten and W.Y. Carman shows a Welsh guardsman in Northern Ireland combat dress in 1971, wearing a khaki beret & WG badge, with no backing.
The old Almark "Coldstream Guards Dress and Appointments 1658-1972", illustrated by Chas. Stadden shows a guardsman circa 1972, again in combat dress, with khaki beret & badge WITH backing. The book was published in May,1973. |
Almost forgot! I have a Grenadier Guards khaki beret, with cloth backing & the blackened badge.
Inside, the label reads: 54 ( size) 8405-99-132-2254 & then care instructions, etc. I am assuming the 99 is 1999? |
99 in the NSN indicates UK
Tim |
The badge backing was not worn during the Falklands War so it must be post 1982.It dates from when other infantry regiments started to adopt khaki berets.
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Didn't realise that. Colin Firth clearly got it wrong then!
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My thanks to all for the information.
Jon |
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I don't think it is showing a badge backing. The Osprey Men at Arms book "The Grenadier Guards" published 1973 shows an illustration representing a Guardman of "the 1970's" wearing khaki beret with a blackened badge, no badge backing. 1GG were wearing khaki berets with embroidered cloth grenades with no backing during their tour in 'Derry 1974/75, an ex-member of Queen's Company has told me that some men wore NCO's embroidered grenade arm badges in lieu of the correct beret badge. |
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I just recalled my trip to London in 1976 ; everyone I saw at Wellington Barracks was in some sort of full dress, but when walking past Chelsea Barracks, I was startled by an armed guardsman behind the fence ( can't remember the regiment) in combat dress with a khaki beret.
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