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engr9266 29-12-19 02:34 PM

RED/BLACK SHEILD WITH BIRDS
 
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Hello, can you tell me if this has anything to do with Sussex please??

Jerry

Phil2M 29-12-19 08:33 PM

Almost certainly it has, mate.

mike_vee 30-12-19 08:06 AM

West Sussex - 6 Martlets on blue shield.

East Sussex - 6 Martlets on red shield.

engr9266 30-12-19 10:06 AM

Thanks for your replies. So if it is Sussex related who would have worn this formation sign? Royal Sussex Regt, Cadets etc

Jerry

Tiger Pete 31-12-19 05:51 AM

Hi Jerry,

I've seen this badge before but cannot place it.

Similar designs have been incorporated into insignia worn by everyone from cadets to Police, fire, and local government.

Google wasn't my friend on this one, but hopefully someone can positively Id this badge.

KR,

Pete

XIII 31-12-19 06:29 PM

It is a WW 2 div sign to the West Sussex County Division.

engr9266 31-12-19 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XIII (Post 496052)
It is a WW 2 div sign to the West Sussex County Division.

Thanks X111 for confirming it is Sussex related.

Regards Jerry.
Happy New year.

mike_vee 01-01-20 08:49 AM

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Found a photo.

engr9266 01-01-20 06:47 PM

Just brought one. :)

Jerry

Postwarden 02-01-20 02:37 PM

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Undoubtedly Susses related but there is no evidence that it is connected with the Sussex County Division although frequently identified as such.

The attached photo shows it being worn by a Royal Artillery Officer serving with AA Command. As he has the badge below the Command sign it is probably a regimental flash but as yet it has defied positive identification.

Jon

Fatherofthree 02-01-20 11:02 PM

Greetings Gerry.

Re your initial post and piccie.

Have a butcher's on Rod Flood's site, search Sussex and all will be revealed.

Not surprisingly, it ain't cheap.:eek:

Regards.

Brian

mike_vee 03-01-20 09:35 AM

What is known so far.

West Sussex County Division : formed on 9 November 1940 by redesignation of Brocforce, this division was redesignated as Essex County Division on 18 February 1941.

Brocforce :

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewto...f9954#p1879204


Could the RA Officer have been attached to WSCD/Brocforce ?

On the site mentioned in the previous post it references a page in a book (Morris Part 1 p26) , if anyone has access to the book could they please let us know what exactly it says/shows.

Postwarden 03-01-20 11:06 AM

The bow and arrow AA Command sign was authorised for the Command's HQ staff in July 1941 and then extended for all those serving in AA Command in November 1942. Even if the Command sign and the Sussex sign were worn together - unlikely as they are both different and unrelated formations - the command sign was not introduced until after the West Sussex Division had been renamed.

My book Badges on Battle Dress illustrates the sign and suggests that it may be a regimental badge which could have been worn with the AA Command sign, the most likely owners being 70th Searchlight Regiment and 109th Light AA Regiment which both had Sussex connections.

Jon


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Originally Posted by mike_vee (Post 496253)
What is known so far.

West Sussex County Division : formed on 9 November 1940 by redesignation of Brocforce, this division was redesignated as Essex County Division on 18 February 1941.

Brocforce :

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewto...f9954#p1879204


Could the RA Officer have been attached to WSCD/Brocforce ?

On the site mentioned in the previous post it references a page in a book (Morris Part 1 p26) , if anyone has access to the book could they please let us know what exactly it says/shows.


mike_vee 03-01-20 11:24 AM

Thanks for the info , as a 'novice' I enjoy trying to figure out obscure/puzzling items and appreciate it when those with knowledge/experience point out when I am off track.

Postwarden 03-01-20 11:35 AM

Mike,

Happy to help. As my young grandson used to say "I'm only learning", good advice for us all.

Happy New Year,

Jon

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Originally Posted by mike_vee (Post 496264)
Thanks for the info , as a 'novice' I enjoy trying to figure out obscure/puzzling items and appreciate it when those with knowledge/experience point out when I am off track.



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