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Frank Kelley 03-10-17 01:36 PM

The badge in your photograph appears to be metal?

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Originally Posted by Blue Puttees (Post 419590)
While not officially approved, I like the cloth version.


Frank Kelley 03-10-17 03:23 PM

Hello Jerry,
Absolutely fantastic images, a fellow would really stand out wearing a badge like those, is that the end of a chain and fob on the sergeants breast pocket flap, just above the button?
Regards Frank

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Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 419674)
A couple of scouts from the Monmouthshire regiment


JerryBB 04-10-17 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 423013)
Hello Jerry,
Absolutely fantastic images, a fellow would really stand out wearing a badge like those, is that the end of a chain and fob on the sergeants breast pocket flap, just above the button?
Regards Frank

Thanks Frank, one from a set I have to the Mons at camp.

Yes to the watch fob and also he has perhaps his SA pair of ribbons up.

Frank Kelley 07-10-17 04:37 PM

Hello Jerry,
Looking at photographs on here and elsewhere, as well as examples of the actual badges themselves, I must assume that they were polished to quite a degree, by their recipients, they certainly are very attractive badges and must have got qualified Scouts noticed.
Regards again, Frank

kingsley 08-10-17 07:56 AM

Thanks for the pictures of the "S" in wreath badges, never seen them before.
I am interested only in trade and skill badges that were worn by Australian forces, which includes most if not all of the WW1 badges including the fleurdelis designs. I doubt if Australians ever wore the S pattern.

Rob Miller 27-01-18 09:24 AM

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Its thanks to great threads like this I spotted this nice badge at a recent Antiques fair.

Rob

Frank Kelley 27-01-18 01:21 PM

A superb example!

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Originally Posted by Rob Miller (Post 434217)
Its thanks to great threads like this I spotted this nice badge at a recent Antiques fair.

Rob


grumpy 28-01-18 04:39 PM

In case it has not been said previously, the official gilding metal badges [all 4 designs] were issued with a black [sic] felt outlining backing ....... a badge with authentic lining would be a nice find.

Paying a lot of money for an unoffical worsted badge, however pretty and well-preserved, is not for me. I have several such [none as handsome], and they are in my "curios" category.

Jelly Terror 29-07-18 10:22 PM

Worsted Scout Badge
 
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'Official' or not, here is a superb example of the worsted scout badge being worn by a QVR scout,:

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JT

Frank Kelley 16-09-18 09:50 AM

Can you post some photographs of the several you mention?

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 434333)
In case it has not been said previously, the official gilding metal badges [all 4 designs] were issued with a black [sic] felt outlining backing ....... a badge with authentic lining would be a nice find.

Paying a lot of money for an unoffical worsted badge, however pretty and well-preserved, is not for me. I have several such [none as handsome], and they are in my "curios" category.


Frank Kelley 25-11-18 11:31 AM

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I wish I had this example, worn a member of the Hussars, lovely big badge.

manchesters 25-11-18 12:01 PM

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Frank,

Would be like the large one shown below.

regards

grumpy 25-11-18 05:54 PM

How many collectors of Scout badges have their own Queen's Scout Badge?

I sweated blood to gain it, finally managed in 1954. I have the cloth and metal/ enamel versions safely framed.

Just boasting.

leigh kitchen 25-11-18 06:19 PM

1954? If you'd got a wiggle on it could've been a King's Scout Badge.

Jelly Terror 25-11-18 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 434333)
In case it has not been said previously, the official gilding metal badges [all 4 designs] were issued with a black [sic] felt outlining backing ....... a badge with authentic lining would be a nice find.

Paying a lot of money for an unoffical worsted badge, however pretty and well-preserved, is not for me. I have several such [none as handsome], and they are in my "curios" category.


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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 454353)
Can you post some photographs of the several you mention?

Ditto... it'd be very interesting to see these if possible.

Also...

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 419664)
I am sure that the need for scouting ahead of, and on the flanks of, a unit in war has always existed. On the large scale, it was a cavalry task.
On the unit scale, Baden-Powell of Mafeking and Boy Scout fame perceived a need to formalise and specialise to get the best results.

Ideally, a man appointed scout would be fit, active, intelligent, skilled at using cover,a good shot, able to make a good assessment and report accurately.
Scouts were officially integral to cavalry and infantry units.
Each unit was to appoint a subaltern as Scout Officer with a sergeant as deputy and a few junior NCOs. The best trained were appointed regimental [or battalion] scouts and received the badge with cross bar. At company level there was a small number of scouts, wearing the badge without cross bar. The badge was introduced in 1903 and discontinued in 1921, having been reduced in size in 1907.

There is some confusion regarding scouts serving in India. Native troops and most British infantry had a small S in a small wreath as an appointment badge, whereas most British cavalry wore the Home badge.

During the Great War the role embraced sniping and observing.

...I'd be interested to learn the source of your info for the introduction in 1903. I believe the larger scout badges which were reduced in size in 1907, were Patterns 6249/1905 (first class) and 6250/1905 (second class). Can you confirm or dispel either way?

With thanks,

JT


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