Royal Ulster Rifles sides caps
 

Hi,
Could someone please tell me the reasoning for the blue band on the 2nd cap. Would it be a custom made piece as the first one has a makers stamp and nothing inside 2nd one.

Thanks

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Could be for the Battalions, 1st Btn. Being one colour 2nd Btn. a different colour. Someone will come along and add more but imagine this may be what it represents, all the best billy

Sorry should have mentioned both have same name inside.

There was movement between Battalions, skills in a particlar area could be weighted in one Battalion and lacking in the other so trainers poached or for family members to be together if requested this mainly being younger brothers being claimed by an older brother, this happened even when I joined up my brother could have claimed me but He was on a shit posting! Now if he had of been in Hong Kong!! ???

Am going to ask a daft question and one I ought to have asked in the beginning, why have the Royal Ulster Rifles got a side cap? They wore Caubeens and while asking I am assuming Emerald Green, was there other colours? Was there possibly a Black colour (Band) perhaps, this question may answer another's thread, many thanks Billy

A well known pre D Day photo of Monty inspecting a fully equipped Rifleman of the RUR. Both officers are wearing 'side caps'.

Tim

No wonder the poor buggers sank as soon as they stepped off their landing craft.

They did come along with this which has L/Cpl inside, some of his webbing is marked WO II and there is a belt marked Capt so much span a period.



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Well the Officer is wearing a Boss badge, the war issue beret, is nice and for you to have all trombone person is good as gives factual evidence. Nice to see he made Captain

I believe I may be able to help on the blue feature in the forage cap.

I have the personal affects of an RUR soldier in terms of a lot of badges and the like. Among the group was a dark blue reinforced felt semi-circle at 8 inches long and a tad over two inches deep at the widest point. If I could pass this into the front fold of a cap it would be just enough to show proud at the front and disappear after an inch or two down the sides. I never knew what this piece of cloth was but it now appears to have a purpose.

Should there be somebody out there that would like this insert they can have it for free or should I say the cost of mail from Australia.

Please PM me if interested.

I saw the blue peak on a khaki Field Service Cap for sale about 20 years ago - but it was badged to The Welch Regiment.

The owner's name in the cap is not completely visible but I am guessing that it might be Kirkpatrick. I am not sure how common a name this is but it should be possible to narrow down a list of potential owners.

Not sure if this helps or complicates things any as this was in the same box.

The forage caps have 'Jack Kirkpatrick' inside, the caubeen has 'Kirkpatrick' and the webbing, gaitors, lee enfield case, belt etc. have a mixture of 'Kirkpatrick' or JBK.

Do you think John Kirkpatrick went by name of Jack or possibly 2 different family members and this is a mixture of their items.

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I read one source which said the ACF wore a blue strip in the front of their FS caps during WW2.

If you have his pay book your probably have more information than any of us can find out about him on the internet. His service papers will still be held by the M.O.D. for many years. Regimental journals will be your best hope of finding out about his career and where he served.

'Since the late 20th century, Jack has become one of the most common names for boys in many English-speaking countries. While Jack is now a proper name in its own right, in English, it was traditionally used as a diminutive form of John.' - Wikipedia

Jack Aubrey in Master and Commander was actually John Aubrey.