ACF, CCF & OTC
 

Today's framing of Agonised Ally UOTC, CCF and ACF cap badges...

ACF, CCF & OTC
 

Nice selection. Thanks for showing.

Stephen.

Looks great, well done.
Regards Terry

Interesting subject, thanks for showing them.
Keith

Very nice ( no Liverpool UOTC ? )

Peter

Very nice collection. There are also a number of other a/a badges worn by the OTCs which could be included to expand the collection. These would include the Welsh Brigade and RRW worn by Cardiff UOTC prior to their own dragon badge and Wessex Brigade badge which was worn by Southampton and Exeter at their founding.

Alan

Good point and thanks, Peter! Absent minded oversight; Liverpool to be added at next update.

W

Thanks for the advice Alan. Maybe I'll add the Cardiff, Soton and Exeter badges, although these are already displayed, included on the main AA collection board, which sits on the wall next to the framed OTCs ...

All the best

William

There lies the rub of categorizing. It's like the RMLI badge. Should that be alongside the RM badge or with the Cadets as it was only for the Cadet band?

There's seldom a perfect answer and often much disagreement when viewing collections on display.

But thanks for your comment abt RMLI; it's a good point and I might migrate that and maybe one or two other badges from the main board to the OTC/CCF frames.

W

It's a slippery slope. I feel that Chris Marsh's book's chapter on cadets being called a 'confusion of cadets' was rather apt.

Yours is an impressive collection. Do you have a list of ones that you have still yet to find?

William,

I think the anodised ( seeded scroll ) Kings ( Liverpool ) cap badge was last worn in the mid 1960`s by 5th Kings and Liverpool Institute CCF but the anodised cap badge with the seedless scroll which was sealed in 1971 ( as attached ) was, I think,but happy to be proved wrong, only ever worn by Liverpool UOTC.

The large anodised badges ( third picture ) were private contract items made for the OTC, I dont know how many were made but as well as my example I only know of 3 or 4 other examples.

Peter

Thanks Peter. V impressed by your large-size Liverpool OTC (Kings) cap badge; the first I've seen and thanks for sharing. Maybe one day I'll get one?

Please can you show a pic of the back of the badge, or perhaps just say who is the manufacturer?

Best regards

William

William,

Will take it out of the frame and photograph the rear as soon as I can.

Peter.

Thanks for yr interest Alan. Just abt to go into surgery here and working on iPhone. Once I get home (tomorrow?) I'll send a copy of my Wishlist.

Awra best

William

Its not marked ,and lugs north and south.
Besides Peter's example i only know of one other.

Sheffield UTC is missing.
Bham OTC in silver too,but it was supposedly worn by security staff. Whether that is just a myth i dont know.
I will check my records later and check against known examples. Theres a few that possibly existed but nobody seems to have produced an example .

I forgot the WRAC for up to 1991 female UOTC OCdts wore the a/a WRAC badge.

From the late 1980s most of the Southampton UOTC female cadets actually wore the officers No1 dress WRAC badge in s/g on their berets; that was due to the fact that Tim the NRPS storeman had mistakenly entered the wrong NSN!

Ive checked and as Alan said previously Cardiff pre the dragon and Southampton pre the re-introduction of the shield badge.
This one isn't there,ive never seen one. But somebody must have one as I have an image.
Also the large Liverpool UOTC.
Btw the badge is not mine.

Hi William,

Some pretty rare items on show!

I have a feeling that you now have probably the most complete collection of A/A cap badges out there!

Regards,

Chris

Wow! Thanks Chris - it would be quite a claim and I've been grateful for your considerable input.

As it looks like I am home for the next three months, am also available for interested visitors.

All the best and thanks again for yr generous comment.

William

Hi Mike! Did you receive my sms texts?

W

No mate. Have changed my number :( .