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Shiny 22-01-19 12:27 PM

Military Police Headgear
 
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Hi All,

I have shamelessly pinched these photos from the RMP museum's facebook page as I'm sure people on this forum will be interested in seeing them.

I know the museum curator certainly was on the forum so if he wants them taking down I will happily do so.

There are two photos, one showing the scarlet Broderick cap and the other showing (amongst other things) a helmet marked up with an MMP flash.

Michael

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 12:34 PM

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They're interesting items, my only military police headgear are a 1960's forage cap and two steel helmets, one a Mk IV, the other a Mk V.

The Mk IV:

Hawthorn 21-03-19 12:51 PM

Nice examples Leigh, like the pristine application of scrim to the netting, not quite the same as a pile of wet hessian strips dripping down the neck and shoulders after a night in the bottom of a trench, hey?

Simon.

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 12:56 PM

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The Mk V. The liner "sock" isn't the issue item, it's a cap comforter that has been opened at one end and had a hole cut in the side so that it can be worn as a balaclava.

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawthorn (Post 472955)
Nice examples Leigh, like the pristine application of scrim to the netting, not quite the same as a pile of wet hessian strips dripping down the neck and shoulders after a night in the bottom of a trench, hey?

Simon.

No, and no hessian cover daubed with boot polish.
Ah - I love the smell of "Cherry Blossom" in the morning...........

The stencils for these sort of helmet insignia are easily available nowadays so that's a bit of a worry.
One of Mike Chappells "The British Soldier in the 20th Century" books, no. 2 in the series, "Field Service Head Dress 1902 To The Present" has an illustration of an RMP helmet with the MP front badge, red band and a Lance corporal or corporals chevrons on the sides.

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 01:16 PM

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A 1969 dated cap, it's never had buttons or badge fitted so that's the way it stays.

sapper533 21-03-19 02:03 PM

Here's one of mine .....a bit of a favourite.
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=163602

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 02:28 PM

Ah, a "Blue Cap", nice - I only have a few "Vulnerable Points" insignia, no headgear.

JerryBB 21-03-19 02:46 PM

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yet to get a Brodrick cap or any MP items except possibly a WWII pulp m/cycle helmet with red band but no badge.

Shiny 21-03-19 03:06 PM

There's some very nice items being shown here, I'd love to get a WW2 marked helmet and that blue cap is VERY nice.

Michael

Chacal 21-03-19 06:14 PM

Military Police forage cap c.1896
 
This Forage cap worn by Military Police NCOs from c.1896 was once a key part of my now largely long-gone military police collection.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ictureid=87755

Graham

Shiny 21-03-19 06:45 PM

Wow, there can't be many of those out and about.

Michael

leigh kitchen 21-03-19 06:55 PM

No, I know I keep saying it but "nice".
The progression of models of caps, berets and helmets would make a great display.

JerryBB 21-03-19 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chacal (Post 472985)
This Forage cap worn by Military Police NCOs from c.1896 was once a key part of my now largely long-gone military police collection.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ictureid=87755

Graham


Very nice Graham, I have one pill box cap in my collection from that period, obviously not mp though.

Phil2M 22-03-19 04:23 AM

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I have a ladies cap :) and a gent's cap. I can't remember the dates.

sapper533 22-03-19 07:46 AM

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Carrying on the theme

leigh kitchen 22-03-19 08:26 AM

To me, that's the classic when it comes to RMP headgear - I think Red Caps then I think that cap.
(I have to admit that I automatically think "Monkeys" rather than "Red Caps" simply because that was the term "everybody" used for RMP back in my army days, same as RTR are to me "Tankies", RE ""Brickies" and R Anglian "Angle Bangles").

sapper533 24-03-19 03:00 PM

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Not mine unfortunately just a couple of images saved from ebay.

CMP FS Cap and RMP Riding Hat from the 1970's I think.

Cheers
Sean

grey_green_acorn 24-03-19 05:41 PM

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The less glamourous dpm cap with MP badge.

Tim

Destro1918 24-03-19 09:07 PM

MP
 
The RMP NCO in DPM could be Cpl Chris Toft, a big collector in the 1980's.

Phil2M 25-03-19 01:40 AM

It does look like Chris

grey_green_acorn 25-03-19 08:28 AM

It is!

Tim

Ironside410 26-03-19 11:30 AM

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I've had this Mk V helmet in my possession for a while and have always been dubious about the MP markings. Any comments would be appreciated.

Dennis

leigh kitchen 26-03-19 12:07 PM

I'm not too clued up on these lids but it's a Mk IV isn't it?
The Mk V being the same shell but with the "spider and sock" liner.
The green painted outer shell looks out of keeping with the condition of the inside.
Although it looks like it could be fairly fresh the insignia seems unnecessarily "different" for a collector's add-on.
I'm unsure either way about it but the condition of the helmet on the outside doesn't seem right for the inside.
Is the insignia in that form known for usage in Australia?

Ironside410 27-03-19 02:25 AM

Hello Leigh, helmets aren't my field either and like you I was concerned about the condition of the outside compared to the inside.

I have never seen that sort of MP markings on an Australian helmet so I was assuming it was British.

Dennis

Destro1918 27-03-19 08:36 AM

RMP Cap
 
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A little nostalgia, my RMP SD cap from the early 1970's. and an image of the label.

Regards

leigh kitchen 27-03-19 09:22 AM

Nice - gilding metal badge and buttons? Was that the norm for RMP caps at the time?
The label indicates manufacture early '70's.

leigh kitchen 27-03-19 09:44 AM

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Not headgear but as this is a RMP thread I thought I might as well post it here rather than in a more general section of the forum - a pouch belt from the 1970's, pouch and belt made of plastic.

bobanodised 27-03-19 01:10 PM

RMP Mounted Troop
 
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One in my collection

Destro1918 27-03-19 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen (Post 473551)
Nice - gilding metal badge and buttons? Was that the norm for RMP caps at the time?
The label indicates manufacture early '70's.

The caps were issued with brass GS buttons and we were issued AA buttons, although issued with AA cap badges mine was a private purchase, my RSM was happy for his NCO's to wear brass cap badges as long as they were 'Highly Polished' it was permitted to purchase plastic chin straps also but I didn't like them. On the topic of Brass badges in the early 1970's we were still issued with Brass RMP shoulder titles.
Regards.

leigh kitchen 27-03-19 03:53 PM

Thanks for that info.


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