Oxf & Bucks LI / 1st GreenJackets Cap?
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This cap has no coloured piping and is the plain dark green cap of light infantry regiments if the detachable black mohair band is removed.
The buttons are the St Edwards Crown black horn or plastic ones of the Green Jacket Brigade and later the Royal Green Jackets (and now the Rifles?)They are sewn directly to the cap, not to the mohair band. Given the combination of the lack of black piping to the cap, the presence of Green Jacket Brigade buttons and the black mohair band, and the caps date of manufacture, 1963, am I right in thinking that this is an Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry cap "converted" to wear by the 1st Bn after they became the 1st Green Jackets (Regiment) within the Green Jackets Brigade (and prior to becoming the 1st Bn of the "new" regiment named the Royal Green Jackets)? In which case it would bear the Green Jackets Brigade cap badge? The cap is by J Compton Sons & Webb London, ink stamped on the sweatband is "1963" and written on it is a fairly distinctive name, "L/CPL FOZARD. G. (BAND)" |
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Could it be that the cap was even worn after the formation of 1 RGJ from the 1st Green Jackets? |
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I have an image of the bandmaster of 1GJ . Its difficult to tell if his cap is piped. He is certainly wearing a rifle green cap with black band. I find its very difficult to tell because rifle green is so dark. His badge looks to be set a lot higher than yours Leigh.
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Thanks, the badge on mine is fitted with the slider slipped into a slit in the thread at the centre of the horizontal seam immediately above the top of the black band, the norm for most badges although the cap predates the brass "clip" fitting at that location.
Any idea re. the black band, if it was worn by ORs in the RB, and /or the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Green Jackets prior to being worn by RGJ? |
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Leigh and Mike.
This may be of interest. In colour but quality not great. It shows soldiers from the 3 regiments (note different colour stripes). https://www.britishpathe.com/video/g...kets-new-dress Tim |
Thank you, that sounds very interesting (although I can't
View it on my current means, I'll have to get to a desktop). I note that while the footage is entitled "Green Jackets New Dress 1962", the short summary states "Soldiers of the Royal Green Jackets show off their regiments new uniform" (the RGJ' being formed from the Green Jackets Brigade on 1/1/66). |
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Here is a still. Green Jacket Brigade cap badge and three different types of NCO stripe.
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Bad positioning of the thumb on the rifle stock by the cpl on the left. |
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Possibly this pattern?
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Could be, I've forgotten what I knew about these things years ago.
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The 4 bar RGJ chevrons i have are of similar construction,these are edged in gold . |
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When No2 Dress was first issued in the early 1960s full size ex Service Dress / Battle Dress stripes and badges were worn. Not long after stripes and badges in two thirds size known as 1960 pattern were sealed (mostly in 1963). Initially stripes were made up in coloured tape on backing fabric but later replaced by fully woven patterns. Here are a few examples:
Many more in my Sealed Standard Pattern album https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...hp?albumid=351 Tim |
Interesting, I didn't know that the 1960 chevrons were initially of tape rather than embroidered.
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