Anodised Aluminium Cap Badges By Firmin
 

Hi Guys,

Biggie this weekend.

Only those from actual collections that you can touch.

List so far:


1st The Queens Dragoon Guards (Voided, Part Solid, Fully Solid Between Eagle Necks)
2nd King Edward VII's Own Gurkha Rifles
3rd Carabiniers (PoWDG)
4th / 7th Dragoon Guards
5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
6th Queen Elizabeth's Own Gurkha Rifles (With Crown)
7th Queens Own Hussars
7th Gurkha Rifles (voided)
9th / 12th Lancers
10th Princess Mary's Own Gurkha Rifles (Beret)
10th Royal Hussars
11th Hussars
11th Hussars (Voided & Unvoided Scrolls)
13th / 18th Hussars
14th/20th Hussars (Head Facing Right)
14th/20th Hussars gold "hawk"
15th/19th Hussars
16th / 5th Lancers
17/21 Lancers
298th (Surrey Yeomanry) Field Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
851st (Westmoreland And Cumberland Yeomanry) Independent Battery, RA (TA)
Aberdeen University
Adjutant General Corps (47Mm High)
Adjutant General Corps (50mm High)
Army Air Corps
Army Catering Corps (2nd Pattern)
Army Department Fire Service (Scroll - Fire Service WD)
Army Physical Training Corps
Army Scripture Readers Firmin
Ayrshire Yeomanry (Large Of)
Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment
Belfast (Queens University OTC)
Birmingham University Otc Firmin & Sons London (Curved Stamp)
Black Watch
Bristol University OTC (Large Book)
Cheshire Regiment
Cheshire Yeomanry
City of London University O.T.C
Coldstream Guards
Cornwall L.I
Devonshire & Dorset Regiment (Blackened)
Devonshire & Dorset Regt
Devonshire Regiment
Devonshire Territorials
Duke Of Cornwall's Light Infantry
Duke Of Edinburgh's Royal Regiment
Duke Of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry (Two Part Badge)
Duke Of Lancasters Yeo (1 part)
Duke of Wellingtons Regiment
Duke Of York's Royal Military School, Dover
Durham Light Infantry (Beret)
East Lancashire Regiment
East Midlands University O.T.C
Edinburgh and Heriot Watt University Officer Training Corps - Version 'A'
Essex Regiment
Exeter University OTC
Gordon Highlanders
Green Howards (1st Pattern)
Gurkha Army Service Corps
Gurkha Engineers
Gurkha Military Police
Gurkha Military Police (Silver & Gold)
Gurkha Transport Regt
Hampshire & I.o.W Territorials
Hertfordshire Yeomanry
Highland Yeomanry
Inns Of Court And City Yeomanry
Irish Guards
Kings Own Royal Border Regt
Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
Kings Regiment (Liverpool)
Kings Regiment Liverpool/Manchester
Kings Royal Hussars
King's Shropshire Light Infantry (beret size)
Leeds University OTC
Light Dragoons (Silver And Gold)
Light Dragoons (Silver, Gold And Blue)
Light Infantry
Light Infantry (black)
Lovat Scouts
Middlesex Regt
Military Provost Staff Corps
MOD Guard Force
Monmouth School
Norfolk Regt
North Irish Horse
North Somerset Yeomanry / 44th Royal Tank Regiment
Oxford University OTC Firmin & Sons
Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire L.I
Oxfordshire Territorials
Parachute Regt (black)
Pembroke Yeomanry (Beret)
Queen Alexandra's Nursing Corps
Q.o Dorset & W. Somerset Yeo
Queen’S University Belfast (Gold)
Queens Gurkha Engineers (Silver And Gold)
Queens Lancashire Regiment (With Red Rose)
Queens Lancashire Regiment -gold- no red rose
Queens own Hussars
Queens Own Mercian Yeomanry
Queens own Oxfordshire Hussars
Queens Own Yeomanry
Queens Own Yorkshire Yeomanry
Queens Royal Irish Hussars (2nd Version - No Arrow Or Dots)
Queens Royal Lancers
Robin Hood Bn.
Royal Anglian Regiment
Royal Armoured Corps
Royal Army Dental Corps (Two Piece Badge)
Royal Army Medical Corps
Royal Army Ordnance Corps
Royal Army Pay Corps Beret size
Royal Army Service Corps (Q.C)
Royal Army Veterinary Corps
Royal Artillery (48, 5 high)
Royal Artillery Cap Badge
Royal Berkshire Regiment
Royal Buckinghamshire Hussars (Inscribed 'Royal Bucks Hussars')
Royal Corps of Signals
Royal Corps of Transport
Royal Devon Yeomanry Artillery
Royal Dragoon Guards (All Silver- 30mm High - NCO's)
Royal Dragoon Guards (All Silver- 43mm High)
Royal Dragoon Guards (Silver, Red and Black - 43mm High)
Royal Dragoons (1st Dragoons)
Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers
Royal Engineers
Royal Fusiliers (1st - 4th City of London )
Royal Gibraltar Regiment
Royal Gloucestershire Hussars
Royal Green Jackets
Royal Hampshire Regt
Royal Hampshire Regt (Black)
Royal Hampshire Regt Duke Of Connaught's 6Th Royal Hampshire Ra
Royal Horse Artillery
Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Royal Irish Regiment (Lugs)
Royal Leicestershire regt, beret
Royal Malta Artillery
Royal Marines
Royal Military Academy Sandhurst
Royal Military Police
Royal Military School Of Music
Royal Military School- silver & gold
Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers
Royal Pioneer Corps (1980's Issue)
Royal Regiment of Artillery (40mm High - Separate Wheel)
Royal Regiment of Artillery (45mm High - Separate Wheel)
Royal Regiment of Wales
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
Royal Scots Greys
Royal Tank Regiment
Royal Welsh Fusiliers (lugs & slider)
S.A.S (black)
Scots Guards
Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry (Strap)
Shropshire Yeomanry
Shropshire Yeomanry
Solihull School CCF (Including Hackle)
South Notts Hussars
South Staffordshire Regiment
Southampton University OTC
Small Arms School Corps
Staffordshire regt
Staffordshire Yeomanry (Queens's Own Royal Regiment), Royal Armoured Corps
Suffolk And Cambridgeshire Regiment
Surrey Yeomanry (small)
Sussex Yeomanry Qc
Tayforth University Otc Firmin
The Robin Hood Rifles
Ulster Defence Regiment
Welbeck College, Worksop, Notts
Welsh Guards
Wessex Brigade
Wessex Regiment
Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry
Wiltshire Territorials
Women's Royal Army Corps
Worcestershire & Sherwood Foresters Regiment
Yorkshire Volunteers- silver & gold



Regards

Chris

Chris,
x3 (anodised - of course...) gold stars.
david

Thanks David,

This whole anodised area is actually pretty interesting and I'm digging up some fascinating stuff at the moment - quite mind blowing really - well, it is to me - must be getting old...

Regards

Chris

Chris

Listed below are the Firmin badges in my collection, all stamped Firmin London with the exception of the 6 badges at the bottom of the list

Paddy

10th PRINCESS MARY'S OWN GURKHA RIFLES (Beret)
GURKHA ARMY SERVICE CORPS
GURKHA MILITARY POLICE (Silver & Gold)
OXFORDSHIRE TERRITORIALS
SUFFOLK AND CAMBRIDGESHIRE REGIMENT
ROYAL HAMPSHIRE REGT DUKE OF CONNAUGHT'S 6th ROYAL HAMPSHIRE RA
ROYAL DEVON YEOMANRY ARTILLERY
SHERWOOD RANGERS YEOMANRY (Strap)
AYRSHIRE YEOMANRY (Large OF)
WESTMORELAND & CUMBERLAND YEOMANRY
HIGHLAND YEOMANRY
SUSSEX YEOMANRY QC
SHROPSHIRE YEOMANRY
SURREY YEOMANRY
QUEEN’S UNIVERSITY BELFAST (GOLD)
ROYAL MILITARY SCHOOL
ROYAL ENGINEERS
ADJUTANT GENERAL CORPS (47MM HIGH)
ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT (Lugs)
BEDFORDSHIRE & HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
14th/20th HUSSARS (Head Facing Right)
DEVONSHIRE & DORSET REGIMENT (Blackened)
11th HUSSARS (Voided & Unvoided Scrolls)
ROYAL ANGLIAN REGIMENT
ROYAL ARTILLERY CAP BADGE
ROYAL MILITARY SCHOOL OF MUSIC
EXETER UNIVERSITY OTC Firmin
OXFORD UNIVERSITY OTC Firmin & Sons
BIRMINGHAM UNIVERSITY OTC Firmin & Sons London (Curved stamp)
TAYFORTH UNIVERSITY OTC Firmin
ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS (Lugs) Firmin
ARMY SCRIPTURE READERS Firmin

A few more to add to the list

Royal Leicestershire regt, beret
The Queens Lancashire Regiment -gold- no red rose
Royal Military School- silver & gold
15th/19th Hussars
Royal Corps of Transport
Queens Own Yeomanry
Devonshire & Dorset Regt
Yorkshire Volunteers- silver & gold
Adjutant General Corps
The Staffordshire regt

Cheers, Dave

Hi Chris,

Royal Military Police
Royal Army Ordnance Corps
Royal Artillery (48, 5 high)

Regards,

Philip

Thanks Guys,

Initial list updated.

Chris

G’day Chris

A few more to add to the list

Firmin
Kings Own Royal Border Regt

Firmin London
3rd Carabiniers (PoWDG)
Royal Dragoons (1st Dragoons)
17/21 Lancers
Welch Guards
Essex Regt
DLI (beret)
Royal Military Academy Sandhurst


Cheers
John

Thanks Mate,

Also I have been asked what the purpose of all this is.

Well, the object is to take what amounts to a straw poll of badges in this forum audience at manufacturer level. From this pool although unscientific we can see which companies produced the most badges at a unit count and therefore which were the most involved in the creation on anodised aluminium cap badges.

The exercise also of course allows us to group unit badges by manufacturer which will be of interest to those who study company history.

Another use for this data is to group manufacturer by unit and see which unit badge was made by a particular maker. This allows a collector at a unit level to obtain all those badges made by each company and see what the differences are and how they correspond to the sealed pattern card if available. Therefore, variations from the previously agreed norm can be noted.

etc.

Regards

Chris

Anodised aluminium cap badges by Firmin
 

May I suggest that it is dangerous to assume that, simply because a maker's name appears on a badge, button or other accoutrement, that the item was manufactured by that firm. Military procurement is famous for sub-contracting and, quite often, named suppliers had nothing whatever to do with the making of the items in question. Certainly this is more likely with the 'big names' Firmin, Gaunt, British Badge & Button Co., etc. The further back you go, the more you find sub-contracting. Often a microscopic examination of the striking confirms that the same badge was being made by more than one source, despite universal naming.

Hi,

Not found anything official as such in the anodised aluminium area although I have found the same slider being used by multiple companies who have then applied their different names to the same slider type. Also the same lug type being used by different companies.

If you have any documents re: such sub-contracting of A/A badges please let me know. Looking through every official document I currently have or have seen related to A/A cap badges only, does not revel evidence of sub-contracting which of course, does not mean to say the practice ever existed.

The period of time I'm looking at is from 1950 to current day.

Regards

Chris

Firmin
 

Hi Chris,
Heres a few more -
1st Queens Dragoon Guards
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
4th / 7th Dragoon Guards
4th Hussars
13th / 18th Hussars
16th / 5th Lancers
Surrey Yeomanry (small)
Queens own Oxfordshire Hussars
South Notts Hussars
Q.o Dorset & W. Somerset Yeo
Duke of Lancasters Yeo (1 part)
Royal Hampshire Regt
Roya Hampshire Regt (black)
Middlesex Regt
Royal Green Jackets
Light Infantry
Light Infantry (black)
Royal Welsh Fusiliers (lugs & slider)
Army Catering Corps (2nd Pattern)
Royal Army Service Corps (Q.C)
Parachute Regt (black)
Gurkha Transport Regt
7th Gurkha Rifles (voided)
S.A.S (black)
The Robin Hood Rifles
Hampshire & I.o.W Territorials
City of London University O.T.C
East Midlands University O.T.C
Kings own Royal Border Regt

Best Regards.
UKBRITS

Firmin
 

Hi Chris
Found a few more for the list -

Irish Guards
Coldstream Guards
Norfolk Regt
Cornwall L.I
9th / 12th Lancers
Queen Alexandra's Nursing Corps
Queens own Hussars

Best Regards.
UKbrits

Firmin
 

Missed one.......

The Black Watch

Regards
UKbrits

Hi Mate,

Your 1st Queens Dragoon Guards - was it fully voided, half voised or solid between necks?

Regards

Chris