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BROOKIES 23-12-17 12:38 PM
WELSH REGIMENT H/M COLLARS
 
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Here you are for the Welsh collectors.

A trio of h/m collars "Na" a matching pair and an odd one.

All Firmin & Sons with Birmingham hallmarks, matching pair 1908 and odd one 1918.

Enjoy

Jonathan

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fougasse1940 23-12-17 09:14 PM
Lovely. Forgive my ignorance, but what does "Na" signify?

Rgds, Thomas

41st 23-12-17 10:36 PM
Than

Paul Spellman 24-12-17 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fougasse1940 (Post 431077)
Lovely. Forgive my ignorance, but what does "Na" signify?

Rgds, Thomas
Thomas,
These Collars also come with the alternative NI.
NA being the earlier type.
Some nice collars shown.
Paul

41st 24-12-17 09:36 AM
Paul,
The use of Na (than) is the correct and later use, not the earlier mistranslation of Neu (or) which is incorrect and Ni has never been used.

Thomas,
What I should have added is that this all relates to the spelling of the regimental motto in Welsh and more importantly, the misspelling of the motto. Amongst just general spelling mistakes was the use of Neu (or) in the earlier spellings which allowed a translation of “Better Death or Dishonour”, whereas it should be “Better Death than Dishonour”.
Hwyl,
Kevin

Paul Spellman 24-12-17 10:00 AM
Thanks for the correction Kevin,
I havent a clue where I git NI from.
Paul

fougasse1940 25-12-17 12:39 AM
Most helpful, thanks all.

Rgds, Thomas

Lancer 17 26-12-17 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 41st (Post 431123)
Paul,
The use of Na (than) is the correct and later use, not the earlier mistranslation of Neu (or) which is incorrect and Ni has never been used.

Thomas,
What I should have added is that this all relates to the spelling of the regimental motto in Welsh and more importantly, the misspelling of the motto. Amongst just general spelling mistakes was the use of Neu (or) in the earlier spellings which allowed a translation of “Better Death or Dishonour”, whereas it should be “Better Death than Dishonour”.
Hwyl,
Kevin
G'day Kevin

Good to see a man who defends his regiments Motto.

Merry Christmas.

OR GLORY.

Phil.

41st 13-12-20 12:50 PM
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Having recently picked up a single OSD collar stamped to Gaunt on the rear I revisited the collars I have and noted that I have have examples marked to Firmin, Jennens & Gaunt, in various formats and thought I’d share them for those who may be interested.
First up are the silver collars.
The top 1909 hall marked collars are manufactured by F&S (Firmin), the third row are marked on the rear for J & Co (Jennens).
The second row whilst unmarked are fretted out between the plumes. I have also found this on one or two OSD cap badges and think it must relate to a particular battalion.
The bottom rhs is the collar badge worn by the 1st Batt’n RSM on white tropical dress c.1923.

41st 13-12-20 12:54 PM
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Next up are the OSD collars.
Top lhs has a Firmin tablet, top rhs a Gaunt, London tablet. Bottom one is stamped Gaunt, London.

eddie 13-12-20 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 41st (Post 531954)
Next up are the OSD collars.
Top lhs has a Firmin tablet, top rhs a Gaunt, London tablet. Bottom one is stamped Gaunt, London.
Very nice

matti467 13-12-20 01:39 PM
Thank you for sharing


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