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Tanker Mike 15-07-19 02:40 PM

1 CANPARA officers collars strange
 
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These 1 CANPARA officers collars are very unusual, they do not have lugs, but a single pin. The collars are nicely marked Scully Sterling with the Scully trademark head.
Are these unfinished collars that someone put a clutch pin attachment on. If so, wearing them would be difficult as the single pin would not be secure enough top keep the collar in place.


Mike

mike_vee 15-07-19 04:57 PM

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A complete novice's opinion , one appears to have the Scully marks in the correct place and has what looks like a mark where the lower lug would have been.

The other has the marks in the wrong place and no sign there was ever a lower lug.

Found 2 other sets on-line for comparison. Pair in second photo have a "buy it now" price of $1,475.00

Ian B 15-07-19 10:40 PM

1 Can Para collars
 
Good day Mike,

In all likelihood, the collars have been modified for wear as ear rings for a Para officer's sweetheart.

This is mentioned in passing by Ken Joyce in "Into The Maelstrom", Ch. 21, p. 197.

Ian

Tanker Mike 16-07-19 03:10 PM

That makes sense now, thanks Ian.

Mike

ddaydodger 16-07-19 03:20 PM

How about officer's collars for the Canadian Airborne Regiment, c1968-1995. Clutch pins were standard at that time.

Ian B 16-07-19 05:02 PM

Mike, your welcome.

ddd, although there is no scale included in the pics in the original post, there is one way you can tell the collars are WWII vintage. While the design of both, WWII and CABR are the same, the sword's hand guard of the WWII 1 Can Para collar has a more pronounced "S" shape. The post-'68 CABR hand guard is of a flatter design. Also, the posts for clutch pin fasteners more often than not have a bevelled point, to allow for the ease of going through material. If you look closely at the photos #2 and #4, you can see that the post is flat or slightly rounded at the tip. This is common to ladies' ear rings for women with pierced ears. In the photos, it also looks like there was never any second post attached to the bottom of the blade. CABR collars are smaller in size than the 1 Can Para collars, but as I stated, with no scale, the only way to tell the age is by the cross guard.

So, in my opinion, the collars in the original post are WWII era, converted to ear rings for a sweetheart.

Ian


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