Gun album
 

OK, so what's with the Webley & Scott album? This is a badge forum, not an NRA forum or gunslinger's club. There are plenty of other forums for such items, so it doesn't need to be included here. I have already queried this with Mike, but since he hasn't replied I'll post my concerns here and also see what other members think.

Please remove it!

David

I suppose you could say the same about, uniforms, caps, daggers, bayonets, medals, postcards, military papers, dog tags and any of the other items that are posted on the Forum that are not a badge.

Marc

Hi David,

The Webley & Scott album is mine. I'm sorry if it has in any way offended or annoyed you. I did check with the administrators to seek their advice and permission 'before' posting it and in this instance they were happy for me to include it.

I am a badge collector amongst other things, as you can see from my other three albums. My inspiration for sharing this album was purely historical (I have plenty of modern guns I have not shared). I have spoken with many badge collector friends on this forum who due to UK restrictions can only dream of owning such historic British military firearms and as an Englishman (now living in the US) I thought it would be nice to share the few examples I have for some additional interest.

If the moderators change their minds and wish me to pull the album down then of course I'm happy to. And again my sincere apologies for any unintentional offense caused.

Regards, Roy.

Hi David, did receive your email, but will reply here. We had the issue a while back regarding album content. Decision was that they should be on a militaria or military theme. So the gun album is ok.
One of those aspects of the forum that will be difficult to please everyone on. Even so, non-badge albums will be outnumbered 50-1 so shouldn't get too much in the way of the badge only brigade?

I like to see what others have in Their collections and don't see any harm it and would like to see a bit more, you don't have to look if you don't want to or aren't interested in it and I don't see why Someone should try to tell others what to put put in their albums.

Andy.

My tuppence worth ?

Roy is right re the British laws on guns and this isn't a debate on those laws, I get tremendous pleasure from looking at this particular album and I also get pleasure from looking at old photo's etc, etc.

I have a very poor replica of my favourite hand gun which is a 1860 Army Colt, I only have a photo of an original, I am needless to say as sick as a pig :D but good luck to Roy and his collection.

The same applies to all the other different collections, I believe that if it is Militaria, it is worth showing off ??

Dave.

May I remind members, in particular those who have so far responded, that it is called a BADGE forum. I don't accept the trite comment made by Marc that you could say the same about other non badge items. None of these other items, with perhaps the exception of knives, daggers, swords, are offensive. That kind of militaria can be displayed on other forums that specialize in that kind of thing.

As for the decision to allow the album to stay, then all I can say is that if this kind of attitude persists, then I want no further part of it.

David

I really think you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. I've just gone through the most recent 5 pages of albums and all but two are insignia albums, and those two are maybe ok from a insignia perspective. Is it the offensive weapon aspect of it that is the problem?

What if someone has a specific 'regiment' theme to an album, say some photos, badges, documents and bayonets stamped with the regimental mark - how do we approach that?

Come on David,

You are being a tad rigid on this !

Are you allowed to have guns in Canada ?

Remember, it isn't the gun/bullet that kills people, it's the person pulling the trigger ?? what next, ban cars ??

Lighten up my friend !

Dave.

This is a storm in a teacup.

So its an album with a few historical weapons. I have deactivated weapons in my home, not my particular interest but they are they because I respect my sons wish to collect them along with his badge collection.

Does its really matter if a member puts something none badge related in an album? No not really.

If we ban an odd album with a few guns on, do we ban the forum section on 'Everything Else'?

As Mike says, it still predominantly insignia that take up most of the albums.

lets keep the whole thing in perspective please.

Ivan

Obviously this argument is going nowhere since those who have responded all have strongly entrenched views that they are right and I'm making a fuss over nothing. Well, we're all entitled to our opinions.

And yes, Dave, some people do collect guns in Canada. And don't give me all that crap about it's not the gun but the person pulling the trigger. We have seen an example today in Ottawa of what they can do in the wrong hands.

Yes, I am offended by the fact that guns are being posted on this forum. I joined it to exchange information about military insignia. Yes, Mike, most of the albums are not gun-related; I'm just objecting to the ones that are, which are inappropriate to this forum.

Given that obviously nothing is going to change I'm taking a break from this forum.

David

David
I get your drift about this being called the British Badge Forum, but all Roy is doing is posting his collection of militaria in HIS Album (to share with everyone) if you don't like it then don't look in it.
I myself find it very interesting and Historical the things I have seen whilst being a member of the Forum its all good.
Anyway enjoy your Kit Kat and Relax.
Regards
Paul.

I am an active member of both this Forum and the British Medal Forum.

The BMF view is that if the post, or in this case the album, is not medal related then it is locked and deleted.

It is not totally rigid and includes items that came with medals etc.

It would howver not allow posts or albums that relate specifically to non medal related themes.

I think this is a specialised forum for British & Commonwealth military badges and its contributors are both interested and knowledgeable in those areas. So why do people post questions about Medals? This always baffles me when there are other forums dedicated to them who are far more able to answer them correctly.

The same applies to guns. This is a badge forum so make the posts and albums about badges. This would of course include the headgear, uniform on which they were worn, the badge backings etc etc, as long as it relates to badges.

I have nothing against guns, I have used them and collected them in my time, but they are not badges are they.

This is a good Badge Forum, lets not dilute it with a plie of other stuff.

regards

I must admit to being surprised at seeing it, but like other things I'm not interested in, I moved on.

Take what you like, leave the rest. The forum can't be all things to all men, and if it has a military theme and in the very tiny minority, them it should be acceptable.

BTW - Are Machine Gun Corps badges OK? ;) ;)

cheers,

Andy C