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Dave S 26-09-21 02:02 PM

Manchester 1st V.B.
 
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Could anyone tell me if this badge is real and give advice as to what to look for in the original manchester v b badges

Luke H 26-09-21 02:20 PM

Very fake.

There are several good Manchester threads. If you search ‘Manchester’ and ‘Volunteer’ in the forum’s search engine they should come up.

Alan O 26-09-21 02:31 PM

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=162345

I think this one is genuine.

Luke H 26-09-21 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 560479)

Certainly a genuine example.

As is this one: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=183279

manchesters 26-09-21 02:51 PM

The badge in the opening post is a FAKE.

Lots of pointers, colour, font, mark under the 1VB and the footed loops.

regards

Dave S 26-09-21 02:58 PM

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is this 2nd V B one real, if not how do you tell the fakes

Dave S 26-09-21 03:19 PM

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here are the others i have got are they any good also

manchesters 26-09-21 03:53 PM

Dave S,

All the ones you show are Fakes.

Lots of reasons, but heres a few pointers.

Never had sliders.
Only the 2nd VB was bimetal
Footed loops are a sign of a fake.
The one with a T fixed to it is a pure fantasy.
A WW1 all brass economy badge doesnt exist.

regards

Dave S 26-09-21 04:02 PM

ok thanks

Dave S 26-09-21 04:23 PM

hi simon yes sorry for that i have not been buying for long and am realizing that it is a true minefield and am wondering whether to give up badges for collecting as god knows what other horrors i have bought and lost money on, thanks for your help anyways
dave

mm1 26-09-21 06:30 PM

badges
 
Hi Dave,

if you enjoy collecting badges, don't give up. This forum is full of friendly collectors who would be willing to help you in determining if a badge is good. I only started collecting a few years ago and , like you, made quite a few mistakes by jumping in and buying badges sometimes on ebay or from poor dealer sites. I quickly learned to check on here before purchasing higher value badges and found it better to purchase badges from fellow members on here or from dealers with a good reputation on the forum.

Mark

Alan O 26-09-21 06:39 PM

I would strongly advise against buying VB badges as the vast majority for sale are fakes. The VB badges were often to singe units and worn for only a few years before the 1908 reforms. Start with something more recent and made in greater numbers!

Luke H 26-09-21 06:56 PM

I would echo Alan’s comments. If new to the hobby V.B.’s are not perhaps the best starting place since genuine badges are few, fakery prolific and mistakes expensive.

Dave S 26-09-21 08:10 PM

thanks for everyone's views and encouragement and maybe it would be better to pick something like the 1st or 2nd war periods which is where my interests generally lie

Luke H 26-09-21 08:23 PM

Both WW1 and WW2 are excellent themes. My advice would be to start with Infantry of the Line and Corps & Services then work up from there.

Beware there are lots of fakes but also a lot of genuine badges which can still be had for the £7-10 range so mistakes aren’t as costly as other disciplines.


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