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lettman 10-06-22 01:13 PM

KRRC glengarry question
 
Did the King's Royal Rifle Corps have a glengarry badge made for the post 1881 period? K&K illustrate two pre-1881 types, and then seem to jump to the 1898 field service cap version. But what was worn in between? I'm aware that up to about 1895 line regiments usually wore the helmet plate centre with a separate or attached crown, but I don't think the KRRC had a detachable HPC. So what did they wear in the glengarry? As ever, any information gratefully received.

Keith Blakeman 10-06-22 04:50 PM

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Pretty certain it’s this one.

lettman 10-06-22 11:38 PM

OK, but isn't this the same as K&K 673, or is it a larger badge? The battle honour for Egypt 1884 also makes the earliest this badge could have been produced as 1885, which would suggest that for a while at least the KRRC may have worn the old 60th version.

Keith Blakeman 11-06-22 05:12 AM

It’s much larger, about the same as the WW1 badge.

Parabellum 11-06-22 06:36 AM

I read somewhere that they continued wearing the pre-territorial badge with the number removed and I have seen these badges in the past.

The KRRC is complicated because there were three different badges sealed with pattern dates of 1882, 1886 & 1895.

The badge Keith shows will be 1886 I would think. I haven't yet discovered what the 1882 badge is.

Hope this helps.

Neil :)

Luke H 11-06-22 08:13 AM

There is also the very rare crown-less glengarry. One was sold on a dealers site recently, it sold immediately. Pictures have already been removed I’m afraid.

If anyone on here has an example or reference picture I’d bet Keith does.

Parabellum 11-06-22 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke H (Post 581231)
There is also the very rare crown-less glengarry. One was sold on a dealers site recently, it sold immediately. Pictures have already been removed I’m afraid.

If anyone on here has an example or reference picture I’d bet Keith does.

A rare one sold on British army badges with top and bottom scrolls, but that was pre 1881.
There are two types of this, both in the picture below, top row.

Luke H 11-06-22 10:14 AM

No it’s not got a tablet top which is the badge I think you’re referring to, that’s also in KK. The glengarry I mention has curly scrolls above the north and below the south cross arms.

Edit: yes, it was the one top row second left. Didn’t realise it was pre-1881.

Parabellum 11-06-22 10:16 AM

I was editing my reply when you answered when I realised which badge you meant sorry.

Luke H 11-06-22 02:32 PM

No worries at all :)

grenadierguardsman 11-06-22 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Parabellum (Post 581241)
A rare one sold on British army badges with top and bottom scrolls, but that was pre 1881.
There are two types of this, both in the picture below, top row.

Cracking collection.
Andy

Parabellum 11-06-22 03:11 PM

It is Andy, but sadly not mine.

lettman 11-06-22 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Parabellum (Post 581228)
I read somewhere that they continued wearing the pre-territorial badge with the number removed and I have seen these badges in the past.

The KRRC is complicated because there were three different badges sealed with pattern dates of 1882, 1886 & 1895.

The badge Keith shows will be 1886 I would think. I haven't yet discovered what the 1882 badge is.

Hope this helps.

Neil :)

Thanks for all the replies, and the excellent photos. Yes, it would be good to know what the 1882 pattern is.

Keith Blakeman 12-06-22 07:21 AM

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I have this one also. I honestly don’t know the significance of the 3 above the 60

The crownless badge is more likely to for the busby with the crown worn on a boss.

mike_vee 12-06-22 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman (Post 581299)
I honestly don’t know the significance of the 3 above the 60

Possible 3rd Battalion connection ? :confused:

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1 July 1881 The 3rd/60th Regiment became the 3rd Battalion The King's Royal Rifle Corps.
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