21st lancers.
 

Last one for today. I thought the slider was so bad would someone making fakes use it ? Local casting ?
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G'day Sapper

That is a truly horrible looking badge, I would not want it in my collection.

You have to remember that they only wore this badge from 1901 until amalgamation in 1922. They were on Home Service from 1899 to 1912, in India from 1915, the North West Frontier from 1916 with a detachment in France and Flanders, 1921 Home Service and disbanded in 1921 and 1 squadron amalgamated with the 17th Lancers in 1922. This is taken from the Regimental history by R.V.L ffrench Blake published in 1968.

The only way that they could have worn this badge is if it was made in theatre whilst in India or the North West Territory.

Regards

Phil.

Thanks Phil.
I was hoping it was a local effort.
Appreciate you taking time to look at badge.
Regards
Chris

I think that is very deliberate, I would not buy it, there have been very many similar examples over the years and it is normally suggested that they were made out on the wretched Frontier.

Thanks frank. Makes sense.

Well, that is what is always suggested as an attempt to pass then as somehow original, all that I can say is that I have never had one in any verifiable group, including members of the regiment who did actually serve on the NWF, all the badges I have ever encountered were always that very good quality bi metal.

No worries frank, as a rule I keep all suspect/duff badges for reference.
Try to keep duff/copy badges out of circulation.
Regards.
Chris

21st lancers
 

Hi, the badge you have shown is in my opinion a badly faked fake,there are numerous 21st Lancer badges out there reputedly economy issue,I admire you for keeping that badge to keep it off the market,I do the same, sadly I have quite a few from when I started collecting 35 years ago,still I expect everyone of us has the same sort of tale,all the best for your future collecting. Mike c

Thanks mike.
Have a few more suspect badges yet to list after going through my collection.
Have quite enjoyed it even though have had to weed out more than 50% I hate to admit it but before I found this site did not even know about crimp marks, or braize holes. Nor when sliders replaced lugs ETC.
Strangely enough am enjoying the hobby more now than when I started.
Regards
Chris

Just get yourself a good bi metal example, they are common enough and are very pleasing badges.

Hi frank.
I do have a bi metal version with nice braising hole.
These are all badges I have picked up in my early days of collecting and before I discovered the forum.
I now only buy badges that I am fairly confident of being genuine. IE looks correct without faults,crimp marks, and braising hole. I am sure I will still get caught on the odd badge. But truthfully half the fun is the hunt.
Value all your comments.
Chris

21st lancers
 

Afternoon All,

Heres an example of a die struck 21st lancers badge ,not the common cast version

Regards

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