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pressguard 07-12-07 03:34 PM

Volunteer Training Corps
Wanted badges and shoulder titles to VTC units, especially Lancashire, Isle of Man, Yorkshire, etc
I have a large amount of badges im willing to trade, contact me for your requirements if you have any VTC units to swop

Peter Brydon 23-12-07 09:50 AM

Hello and best wishes for Christmas and the New Year,
I dont suppose you have any rarer Kings Liverpool items that you might swop for VTC badges do you ?

Is so I would be happy to try and get hold of some VTC badges.


KLR 23-12-07 12:48 PM

You're not the first to ask Peter !!!!

Happy Christmas to you both !

harribobs 27-02-08 04:19 PM

there's a Manchester regiment VTC badge going on ebay at the moment

item 370026394532 opening bid 35, looks 100% kosher to me ( not my auction I should add as well!!)

lettman 06-07-08 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pressguard (Post 634)
Wanted badges and shoulder titles to VTC units, especially Lancashire, Isle of Man, Yorkshire, etc
I have a large amount of badges im willing to trade, contact me for your requirements if you have any VTC units to swop

Is this the kind of badge you mean? I'm afraid I'm not clear on the distinction (if any) between WW1 Volunteer Regts and the VTC -- please set me straight on this, anyone in the BBF!

Alan O 06-07-08 08:28 PM

There is often some confusion here so for the benefit of all:

Most Regular Bns had betwenn 1 to 4 Bns and were numbered as such.

Upto 1908 various Volunteer Battalions were formed from local civilians as Bns of Infantry. Not all Regular Bns had VBs but most did. They were part time and descended from the Rifle Volunteers in reponse to the perceived threat from France in the 1870s. These were numbered 1 VB upwards. At the same time there were militia bns.

In 1908 there was a reform of the VBs and the Territorial Force was raised. These TF Bns were more closely aligned to the Regular Army but remained volunteers ie part time and recrutied from the civilain populace. These TF are sometimes referrred to as volunteers but Territorial rather than Volunteer Bns. The Regular bns were usually (but not always) numbered 1st and 2nd, the militia were converted to reserve (home trg) bns generally numbered as the 3rd and the TF 4th upwards.

In 1914 the TF were mobilised for service and there were a number of 'pals' bns raised from volunteers. This term was due to the local nature of recruitment of some Bns. Later on there were Service Bns. These Bns are all liable for overseas service. From 1916 conscription is introduced. 1919 onwards these Bns are disbanded.

At the same time there is a formation of VTC - Volunteer Training Corps. A bit like the Home Guard of WW2 and made up of local volunteers who trained to resist any German invasion. They were at best semi-official with their own unifrms and rank insignia until 1916 when the War dept tried to bring them into one officially controlled body. Annoyingly enough they also had their own Bn numbers. They ceased in 1918.

Hope this is a little clearer.


Stanley_C_Jenkins 06-07-08 09:30 PM

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The Volunteer Training Corps had their own badges, and they initially wore a greenish-grey uniform, together with an armband or brassard (as shown). Their badges must be very rare.

lettman 07-07-08 12:04 AM

Thanks for these comments, Alan and STJ. So I take it my Norfolk Volunteers badge is not VTC?

Alan O 07-07-08 07:03 AM

No it is VTC.


lettman 08-07-08 03:41 AM

This is a clear case of English needing an equivalent to the German 'doch' or the French 'si' -- a 'yes' answer to a negative question! :confused: But I get your meaning, Alan -- thanks!

Stanley_C_Jenkins 08-07-08 07:24 PM

I have just found an Oxfordshire VTC badge in the Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry Museum collection. I may be able to provide a picture in due course.

peter616 08-07-08 09:52 PM

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OXFORDSHIRE VOLUNTEER REGT cap badge all i have done the back so you can see the maker name


KLR 08-07-08 09:57 PM

Fattorini (who still exist) made a lot of different VTC badges.

harribobs 14-07-08 09:27 PM

this is a manchester VTC 'mufti' lapel badge

fusilier27 14-07-08 10:45 PM

I have a sussex VTC green enamel and brass some of the enamel has chipped off in two places it has a slider but no makers name: could it br real:confused:


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