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Jelly Terror 30-09-21 09:00 PM

Look-up Request, Please
 
Requesting some assistance with info relating to the following casualty, please:

36179, G. W. Mowles
Army Veterinary Corps (1st Vet Hospital)
DOD: 31/10/1918
Commemorated: Greenwich Cemetery

Any help gratefully received.

Regards,

JT

Phil2M 30-09-21 10:12 PM

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This is on Ancestry if it is of any use to you :)

George William. His record of soldiers effects 1918 are there but are a separate subscription, sorry.

Fatherofthree 30-09-21 10:56 PM

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Greetings JT, best I can offer at the moment.

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Best wishes m'boy.

mm1 30-09-21 11:19 PM

Mowles
 
Hi JT,

his family tree is on Ancestry - anything in particular you are looking for ?

Mark

Jelly Terror 01-10-21 12:54 AM

Thanks to all so far.

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Originally Posted by mm1 (Post 560956)
Hi JT,

his family tree is on Ancestry - anything in particular you are looking for ?

Mark

Mark,

Looking for more details in connection with his service, in particular the circs surrounding his death (having died so close to the time of the Armistice).

The CWGC info states that he is commemorated (possibly interred) at Greenwich, and to the best of my knowledge, the AVC 1st Vet Hospital was in Aldershot. Does this mean our man died in the UK?

Other than by accessing his death cert., is there perhaps any other way of establishing what happened to him - would such info be available through the tree you cite on Ancestry?

JT

XIII 01-10-21 07:15 AM

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This is from Fold3

mm1 01-10-21 08:58 AM

mowles
 
Hi JT, no other info on his military service on his tree. His service record might have hinted at the cause of death, but that record is not available on ancestry.

Mark

High Wood 01-10-21 10:30 AM

There is nothing on F.M.P. either apart from a link to his medal index card and his CWGC details. I have also looked in the National Newspaper section and have found nothing.

It looks as if his death certificate might be the only way forward.

High Wood 01-10-21 10:37 AM

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The fact that he is commemorated in the Greenwich Cemetery indicates that he died at home in the U.K. The fact that he is commemorated on a screen wall indicates that he had, and still has, an individual grave somewhere in the cemetery. That grave will now be unmarked but it should be possible to locate it if there is still a burial register on site.

The C.W.G.C. in their wisdom, decided that the upkeep of individual graves in large urban cemeteries was too costly and commissioned screen wall memorials to commemorate the dead.

Here is a similar example from the Lambeth Cemetery, which I visited many years ago to find Albert Sullivan's grave. The headstone is now gone and his name has been added to the screen wall. With the help of the cemetery staff, I was able to locate his original grave.

mike_vee 01-10-21 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by High Wood (Post 560976)
That grave will now be unmarked but it should be possible to locate it if there is still a burial register on site.

Checked out the Royal Borough of Greenwich site and it has teamed up with the specialist family history organisation "Deceased Online".

A 'search' on their site has documents/details about George Mowles (burial date 21 November 1918) which are available for a small fee .

1. Grave details and 11 other burials
2. Burial register scan
3. Map of grave location

https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/in...burial_records

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Jelly Terror 01-10-21 01:02 PM

Thanks so much to everyone. I really appreciate all your kind help.

All the best,

JT

KLR 01-10-21 02:14 PM

I don't live very far from that cemetery - but I gather that there's no specific grave - but I can go and take a shot of the memorial if you want.

(I and a friend wrote a book[let] on the 49 "fallen" inscribed on two plaques in All Saint's church Blackheath a couple of years ago. Hence we found and photographed (99%) all the graves, locally and overseas.)

Jelly Terror 01-10-21 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KLR (Post 561000)
I don't live very far from that cemetery - but I gather that there's no specific grave - but I can go and take a shot of the memorial if you want.

I and a friend wrote a book[let] on the 49 "fallen" inscribed on two plaques in All Saint's church Blackheath a couple of years ago. Hence we found and photographed (99%) all the graves, locally and overseas.

An extremely generous offer, Julian, thank you. On this occasion, however, an image of the memorial itself isn’t necessary. I really appreciate the gesture though. Thank you so much.

Jelly Terror 01-10-21 04:45 PM

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Just to add… a quick search (utilising info kindly provided within this thread) has revealed our man married Crissey Bell Hall, at Lambeth, in 1904.

Chatting off-forum with Magpie… anyone else think this may say ‘Wife in prison’. Surely not?! :eek::D I’m kind of hoping it does, just to add to the intrigue.

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leigh kitchen 01-10-21 04:49 PM

Wfe in person?


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