Metal sliders
 

Can anybody throw any light on something for me.
In my collecting i have a few staybrite badges that have a metal slider fitted rather than an a/a one(Manchester Regt,Northamptonshire Regt,RA beret).The joint between the two appears to have been flattened thus holding it in place.Where these some of the earliest produced badges ? Had the manufacturers not found a suitable way to affix the slider ?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Mike,

Early a/a badges had a problem with breaking. Consequently various changes were made to designs. You do see the odd a/a with a riveted brass slider made by Gaunt London from the late50s-early60s. I have had a Q/C REME and a RE one with brass sliders and have seen a few others. Not very common and they were back to a/a sldiers by 1958 and the new Inf Bde badges.

Alan

Metal sliders
 

In 1948/49, when the first anodised badges were being proposed & made, the designers were having problems with the bonding agent which fastened the slider to the badge. This went on for years. By 1953/54 Gaunts & Dowlers experimented with the brass slider. What they did as part of the design is leave an aluminium post coming from the badge. Then they would fit the slider over it & press it down; this would give it the rivet effect. I have 2 sealed patterns sealed in 1954, but by 1955, these had been cancelled. In 1955 a new bonding agent was devised for use in the nuclear power industry. This was so strong it solved the problem of the bonding of slider to badge.
Peter

Thanks for that gents,much appreciated.
No wonder nobody can get anything to repair broken lugs or sliders if it comes from the nuclear industry.id love to know how many rare items have gone in the bin because the slider or lugs are broken.

Hello,

I realise this post dates back 6 years or more but I woulld be interesting in seeing photos of the AA Manchester Regiment badge that Mike H refers to.

So MikeH if you are still out there this one is for you.

regards

Simon,
It's probably a Grove made badge? I have an example too, but won't be able to post an image until Wednesday

Andy

Only ever seen & owned a couple of brass slidered anodised, Queens (I think with a Gaunt marking on the riveted slider), sent to the original owner, a cousin in Australia who wore it in the late 60's so no photos of that one, & RE, which I jhave around somewhere. Never new about the nuclear bonding stuff, interesting.

Yes a Grove badge. As far as im aware all their badges had metal sliders.
Queens was amongst a number of Gaunt London badges found with metal sliders.
Theres a few posts refering to who made what with metal sliders.

The Nuclear Bonding Stuff is interesting but going by where the info came from it could be totally spurious as it came from an unreliable source! Although not quite Hans Christian Anderson our Ole PT likes to tell the odd Fairy Tale! ;)

Andy

Well the same 'source' gave that info to me many years ago too. The bonding product was quoted as 'belzona' or something similar from memory.

Incidentally I have a Manchester with the Grove metal slider and a regular early Smith & Wright slider marked example.

All the best gents

Bess

Bess,

Could you post a photo also please?

regards

I have a RAOC 1952 Patten AA Badge with riveted brass slider marked T&S

Turner and Simpson. A very scarce maker.
I dont think i have a single T and S badge,one or two maxium

This is probably the rarest Metal slidered anodised badge I have, "Rare" because it is the "Only" one I've ever seen (until now?)!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=96903

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=96904

Andy

I have a small early RA beret badge and the usual RAOC version. As Mike states, fairly uncommon maker.

Simon, PM sent re Manchester aa cap badge images mate.

Regards all

Bess