Infantry batch 1 from Irish Guards to Cheshire - 2nd opinions please. THANK YOU!
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Gentlemen,
Here are the first batch of infantry badges. Please be so kind as to share your opinion on originality of these badges and wheter or not these are correct for the ww1 and/or ww2 era. Thank you once more. Please keep up the goodwork! Cheers, Tom |
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Irish Guards
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Queen's ww2-era
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Buffs
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King's own
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The King's - ww1 era
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King's ww2 era
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Norfolk WW1 era
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Norfolk WW2 era
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Devonshire
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Suffolk
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West Yorkshire
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East Yorkshire
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Bedfordshire
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Yorkshire PoW
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Cheshire WW1 era
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Cheshire WW2 era
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Irish guards is ok.
Andy |
Tom, your second King's badge is very common and genuine. It was worn / made between 1926 and 1950 as WO Pattern 10042/1926. It probably has another rectangular braze hole behind the slider.
(It was superseded by Pattern 14312/1950) |
Thank you Andy and KRL!
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Your first King's Lpl badge was WO Pattern 4362A/1896. There were 50,00 Kingsmen to be badged during the 1st WW. This 'Pattern' was therefore made / worn between 1896 and 1926 (and superseded by your 1926 badge).
I have defined 22 dies of the 4362A Pattern and yours is what I have called 1896/Die 14. (I have four examples - all identical to yours) It has a vertical shank rather than loops which appeared before the war but made before the the mass production in 1916-17 as it has the fine features of the original dies though: healthy horse, a good mane, three part tail, slightly humped scroll, voided hind legs and the rounded tabs (on the reverse of the scroll brazed to the 'ground') later ones were pointed. It is not the most common die but definitely genuine made by an anonymous manufacturer. |
Not keen on the Suffolls. It is the 19081-6 TF badge but the BP named slider makes me suspicious of it.
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The Bedford, Devon, East yorkshire are all brass and thus the 1916 economy designs.
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Can anyone please confirm or deny Alan's suspicion of the Suffolk badge? Thanks! |
That appears to be a nice old example.
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I would replace that, it appears to have been crudely repaired at some point with the lead all over it's reverse.
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I don't really like either of the Norfolk badges or the West Yorks. Also agree with Alan on the Suffolks.
Brittania looks wrong on the Norfolks and the tabs for the scroll on the West Yorks look wrong. Cheers, Alex |
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Okay thanks
Suffolk is now in the return bin as a reproduction Can others please confirmor deny that both Norfolks and West Yorks are reproductions? |
Taking stock:
Good: Irish Guards (Andy) The King's (KRL) Kings's (KRL) Bedford (Alan) Devon (Alan) East York (Alan) King's Own (Frank) Cheshire ww1 (Frank although condition not good due to repair - atleast that is my interpertation of it) Bad: Suffolk (Alan and Phil) Norfolk ww1 (Alex and Phil) Norfolk ww2 (Alex and Phil) West York (Alex and Phil) No opinions on: Cheshire ww2 Buffs Queen's Yorkshire PoW Gentlemen Thank you for these opinions. I would very much welcome some additional opinions especially on the badges that have not received any: Cheshire ww2 era, Buffs, Queen's and Yorkshire PoW. Thanks! |
The Cheshire is a good older badge with the lugs gone and replaced with a slider. The Queen's looks OK and I think the W. Yorks is OK as well, but a poorly made badge. The WW2 Cheshire is OK.
CB |
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Good: Irish Guards (Andy) The King's (KRL) Kings's (KRL) Bedford (Alan) Devon (Alan) East York (Alan) King's Own (Frank) Cheshire ww1 (Frank and CB) Cheshire ww2 (CB) Queen's (CB) Bad: Suffolk (Alan and Phil) Norfolk ww1 (Alex and Phil) Norfolk ww2 (Alex and Phil) West York (Alex and Phil) No opinions on: Buffs Yorkshire PoW |
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Question as to avoid any confusion: You are saying the W Yorks is good; the same badge that Alex and Phil do not like? Or are you refering to another badge than Alex and Phil? |
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