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Mike Jackson 31-03-15 11:59 AM

Brabant Weave
 
Could someone please give me a definition or authoritative description of what constitutes a "Brabant Weave" sign or title. I need something to educate the readership of Militaria magazine. Thanks. Mike

David Tremain 31-03-15 03:11 PM

Mike, I think there was an explanation from someone when I posted a pair of 7th Armoured Division patches a year or so back. I'll try and see if I can find it. I think it had something to do with being made in NW Europe in the latter part of the war, but I'm not sure of the actual textile technicalities i.e. warp, weft, bias weave etc. Otherwise there must be something in Wikipedia.

David

David Tremain 31-03-15 03:37 PM

Can't find my original posting referred to above, but came across this online:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=LTY...0weave&f=false
And also this: http://www.kellybadge.co.uk/beginner.htm#Brabant
Hope this helps.
David

Bill A 31-03-15 03:44 PM

My understanding is that Brabant weave is a term used to describe woven insignia that was produced by a Dutch firm in Heeze Netherlands. I believe the firm was owned / named van Engel and Evers. Some documentation in Canadian archives refers to badges obtained from that source. Heeze is in the Brabant area of the Netherlands.

Mike Jackson 31-03-15 04:48 PM

Thank you all very much.. Most helpful. And I note that the firm - Van Engelen und Evers b.v. is still in business today. Mike

fougasse1940 31-03-15 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Jackson (Post 304747)
Thank you all very much.. Most helpful. And I note that the firm - Van Engelen und Evers b.v. is still in business today. Mike

Please make that Van Engelen en Evers b.v., und is german.

Rgds, Thomas.

Bill A 31-03-15 08:52 PM

Thanks for the correction on the spelling. I wonder if the firm has an archive?

Mike Jackson 01-04-15 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fougasse1940 (Post 304781)
Please make that Van Engelen en Evers b.v., und is german.

Rgds, Thomas.

Apologies - I should have stuck with & !

Van Engelen & Evers B.V.
Industrieweg 64
5591JL HEEZE
Postbus 4
5590AA HEEZE
Nederland

NEMO 02-04-15 01:37 PM

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Just a quick example ,

One of the ` old n bold ` of cloth collecting Norman Wolden told me that there are formation signs manufactured by this Dutch company worn by units that never left the UK ?

HamandJam 02-04-15 02:18 PM

hi chaps,

This badge is also brabant weave. I.e. Heeze is in province of Noord Brabant

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ctureid=108936

Cheers,
JB

Mike Jackson 02-04-15 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NEMO (Post 304970)
Just a quick example ,

One of the ` old n bold ` of cloth collecting Norman Wolden told me that there are formation signs manufactured by this Dutch company worn by units that never left the UK ?

Including 47 Inf Div - the Bow Bells - I believe. Mike

David Tremain 02-04-15 04:26 PM

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These are the badges I posted a while back, which I was told were Brabant weave.

David

NEMO 02-04-15 07:19 PM

I reckon it would be great to have a` sticky` thread where we can show all known examples and build up a file ? any one agree ?

Luc 02-04-15 09:11 PM

There are a number of Barabant weave insignia shown in my forces in exile album.

NEMO 02-04-15 11:54 PM

Many thanks Luc .


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