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  • CEF Buttons

    It is intended that Buttons (CEF) will be included in the book. I am writing this to ask for help in understanding this area and to ask for help in recording the "facts" on CEF buttons.

    There seems to be only one "main" source of information on CEF Buttons - Eric Smylie's Buttons of the CANADIAN MILITIA_ARMY NAVAL and AIR FORCES_1900-1990. CEF buttons are also commented on in various Service Publication books (Kahki, Dress to Kill ...). The forth coming book will build upon these references and hopefully add to the information available concerning CEF Buttons.

    There seems to be 4 sizes of buttons - XL (Ligne 70- 1 3/4"- 44.5mm), LG (Ligne 40- 1"- 25.5mm), MED (28 Ligne-11/16"- 18mm) and SM (?? Ligne- ??"- ??mm). Does this seem correct? The conversion between the 5 button and 7 button tunics are one reason for different sizes, use on the Cap and Great Coats also are a reason for different sizes.

    Not all Inf Bn's had unique CEF buttons. Smylie suggests that there were 33 units using distinctive CEF buttons. His book is missing a few (Pay Corps), we have counted over 70 CEF specific button types (Unit) to date.

    What sizes exist for each unit. Does each unit have all 4 button sizes or 3 or ???.

    What different finishes are there? (Gilt, Black, Brass, ?)

    What are the manufactures of the CEF buttons?

    The book will show a full color, high resolution image of each button. for Units that have multiple sizes, the button displayed will be the large one (1"). The comments will include known or reported sizes, finishes and makers mark.

    Please help with this. You can respond in this tread and everyone will then gain from your info

    Thanks
    Larry Will

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    CEF Buttons - Corps

    These are the Corps Buttons that I know of. the design is specific to CEF service. So What sizes exist?, What finishes are there? What MM are on each button? Is there any more corps Units that have a CEF button?
    4th CMR
    5th CMR
    5th CMR
    Railway Const
    7th Railway Troops
    12th Railway Troops
    Pay Corps
    1st Tank Bn
    Dental Corps
    Army Gymnastic
    MG Corps
    Bordens MG Bty
    Gen Svc
    Larry Will

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    • #3
      These are the Inf Units that I know of that have buttons. Are there any more? what sizes of buttons does each unit have? What is the finish? What MM are on the buttons
      1st Bn, 2nd Bn, 3rd Bn, 4th Bn, 5th Bn, 14th Bn, 16th Bn, 18th Bn, 19th Bn
      20th Bn, 21st Bn, 22nd Bn, 23rd Bn, 24th Bn, 25th Bn, 26th Bn, 27th Bn
      28th Bn, 29th Bn, 31st Bn, 38th Bn, 39th Bn, 43rd Bn, 47th Bn, 48th Bn
      49th Bn, 50th Bn, 52nd Bn, 58th Bn, 60th Bn, 61st Bn, 67th Bn, 69th Bn
      72nd Bn, 75th Bn, 82nd Bn, 85th Bn, 88th Bn, 96th Bn, 113th Bn
      115th Bn, 116th Bn, 119th Bn, 125th Bn, 128th Bn, 137th Bn, 150th Bn
      160th Bn, 161st Bn, 163rd Bn, 166th Bn, 220th Bn, 222nd Bn, 222nd Bn
      239th Bn, 244th Bn, 253rd Bn

      Thanks
      Larry Will

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      • #4
        Are you looking for info, or photos?

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        • #5
          Marway sold a 46th Battalion South Saskatchewan in 2012 and gave the period as 1915-1918.

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          • #6
            CEF Buttons

            I am really looking for information. I need an education on this subject. There are some units that are known to have buttons that I do not have an image of. I'll post the images that are needed once I get a better idea of what "known" buttons there are

            thanks for answering

            Larry
            Larry Will

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            • #7
              There is also

              Canadian School of Musketry brass made by Scully
              Canadian Corps of Signals brass (no maker mark)
              Canadian Corps of Cyclists brass made by JR Gaunt & Sons London
              Canadian Veterinary Corps brass made by JR Gaunt & Sons London
              46th Canadian Infantry Battalion brass (no maker mark)

              The remainder that I have are listed.

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              • #8
                27 Bn

                http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CEF-CANADIAN-...sAAOxyItRTcjyw

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                • #9
                  50th Bn CEF, Tiptaft and sons, Birmingham.

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                  • #10
                    CEF Buttons

                    Originally posted by 8Hussar View Post
                    There is also

                    Canadian School of Musketry brass made by Scully
                    Canadian Corps of Signals brass (no maker mark)
                    Canadian Corps of Cyclists brass made by JR Gaunt & Sons London
                    Canadian Veterinary Corps brass made by JR Gaunt & Sons London
                    46th Canadian Infantry Battalion brass (no maker mark)

                    The remainder that I have are listed.
                    School of Musketry and Signals may not be specific to the CEF (Signals I believe is not). Cyclists I would think is specific to CEF. Vet Corps may or may not be?? The Corps was in being before the war. 46th - I never knew about that one -Do you have an image??
                    Larry Will

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LLWill View Post
                      .... 46th - I never knew about that one -Do you have an image??
                      Please ask Marway for the image. They hold the copyrights.

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                      • #12
                        I'll send you an image when I get home today.

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                        • #13
                          Larry, not sure that it is an issue if they are CEF specific or not. Some of the personnel (definitely not all) wore these corps buttons.
                          Res ipsa loquitur

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                          • #14
                            Bill, that was what I was thinking. If the insignia was worn during the First World War (permanent force, for example) it should be included in the project.

                            Larry, as requested, here are my 46th Bn buttons.
                            Attached Files

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                            • #15
                              CEF Buttons

                              Nice!

                              Now to get them to my email account with the dimensions!!!

                              Thanks
                              Larry Will

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