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    Hi all,

    Picked up a lot of items today and among of them there was as well this button - QVC, "No Surrender 1688". Like I understand it was a war cry during siege of Derry/Londonderry. Any ideas what it Is? Could it be a Tyrone militia related?

    Thanks

    Last edited by phaethon; 28-10-18, 08:42 AM.
    I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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    I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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    • #3
      Possibly an Apprentice Boys club button or similar?
      I can't find it as military, but as you say, militia?
      Last edited by leigh kitchen; 27-10-18, 10:23 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by leigh kitchen View Post
        Possibly an Apprentice Boys club button or similar.......
        Did they had them even in Victorian time? Sorry, I am not originally from that part of the Europe
        I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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        • #5
          Yes, they go back centuries - I think you're closer with your suggestion of Militia although I would'nt think it's a 'Derry unit rather than Tyrone.

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          • #6
            I don't think it is Militia.

            Limerick and Londonderry have a castle as part of their design but nothing matches this button.

            A nice looking button though but I can't find any Militia connection.

            Cheerio,

            Roy
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            • #7
              Thanks! So, Apprentice Boys*it is. Must be one of the early ones, following military style, that fooled me.
              I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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              • #8
                It looks like the castle on Inniskilling buttons, and doesn't it say 1688 rather than 1866?

                http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/h...ing-fusiliers/

                Rob

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                • #9
                  Yes Rob - 1688 indeed
                  I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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                  • #10
                    This one is Victorian as well I presume:



                    I am always looking early (pre 1939) British ribbon bars with foreign awards; interesting devices or just different construction solutions. Also I am seeking Royal Dublin Fusiliers items. I can help in small scale to research RDF soldiers (MICs, medal rolls, additional information, etc).

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                    • #11
                      Yes, the Veterinary Department is very early and when formed contained only veterinary surgeons (i.e. officers), it was a first attempt to centralise veterinarian care and take it away from individual cavalry, artillery and service corps units. However it left regiments with the responsibility to provide veterinary Ďassistantsí (ranks below officer) and eventually both groups were brought together in a single, coherent Army Veterinary Corps (AVC). Your button is from the earlier period.

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                      • #12
                        Another two similar buttons have appeared on Ebay

                        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-M...y/123893598221

                        Simon
                        Second To None

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