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08-06-09, 01:01 PM
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VIII Recce
I found a file folder of old journals from the Military and Police Historical Society of Canada. The society existed for about 3 years, starting in 1984. The MPHSC Vol 1 No 1 included an article on the VIII Recce, including some interesting comments about repro badges.
The unit was created in the UK, and the first CO, Lt Col Churchill Mann, designed and had them made at his cost. The badge was a silver maple leaf, with a gilt double scroll bearing the Roman numeral VIII and RECCE on the upper and lower arms of the scroll respectively. RCOC refused to provide the badges so Mann acquired them and sold them to the regiment at cost. More interestingly, at the end of the article a paragraph discussed the issue of reproductions. (The article was published in 1984.) "After personally talking with some ex-members of this distinquished regiment... it was definately established that no variety of their badge existed and those found bearing the word Canada on it (are) reproductions. Beware of any VIII Recce badge containing the extra scroll with Canada on it as it does not deserve a place of importance in your collection. Also note that other repros exist but the stem of the maple leaf is facing the opposite dicrection than illustrated. (The authentic badge has the oval on the stem base facing left.) Last edited by Bill A; 08-06-09 at 03:28 PM. Reason: clarified post 
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#2
08-06-09, 02:00 PM
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Hi Bill,your post, of today, is similar to the discussion we had on this subject in March with you,me, WJ Miller,Doug N,DavidS and Ray.
Jo
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08-06-09, 02:39 PM
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Thanks Bill, Good digging.
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08-06-09, 03:34 PM
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Hi Bill, good posting, thanks.
Does the article speculate on where the repros were made (coming from)? Bill M.
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08-06-09, 03:36 PM
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Bill, you're right in bringing this up. Felicitations.
Jo
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
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#8
08-06-09, 03:44 PM
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Thanks. There was no indication of the source of the repro badges, but that was about the time that a certain "badge maker" was active in eastern Ontario.
I will continue to dig through these for other badge gems. I had at one time a list of repro badges circa 1980 compiled by Charles Stewart. I haven't seen it for years, but if it comes along I will post it.
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09-06-09, 05:44 AM
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The VIII RECCE Canada scroll badges are rudimentary, low quality castings. They might best be described as crap. If we're thinking of the same guy, the Eastern Ontario badge maker was quite skilled. Not trying to flatter any forger, but I'd be surprised if the Canada Recce's were his work.
I've heard more than a few stories about the origins of this badge...
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