Hairy Beast finally caught one!

[tonyb]

This one arrived today, a nice Warwickshire Regiment badge with the hairy, bearded, Birmingham Pals type antelope.
Thought I would share.
Cheers Tony.

[2747andy]

Yep,

You certainly did!

Andy

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by tonyb

This one arrived today, a nice Warwickshire Regiment badge with the hairy, bearded, Birmingham Pals type antelope.
Thought I would share.
Cheers Tony.

Well done, Tony. Good on you.

[gb64]

Nice Tony,
I'm after one myself, not jealous of yours at all !!!

Gerard

[ARTY]

Excuse my ignorance Gents and I know I am in the process of selling my collection but I am still keen to learn, I cannot see the difference between that badge and my Warwicks badge is it the little beard tuft. If so you must have eyes like SHRs and applaud your powers of observation.
Arty

[gb64]

Hello Arty,
Tony's badge differs to a standard pattern OR's badge, it is of the same pattern as the 1st-2nd-3rd Birmingham Batt (Pals),with out the bottom scroll, it has as you said a beard also it has fur to the body and jewels in the crown/coronet around its neck.

Gerard

[ARTY]

Hi Gerard
In all my years I have not been aware of all these differences in the badges thanks indeed.
Arty

[Frank Kelley]

That is very nice and certainly not something you see every day, it does pay to examine each example that you encounter.

Originally Posted by tonyb

This one arrived today, a nice Warwickshire Regiment badge with the hairy, bearded, Birmingham Pals type antelope.
Thought I would share.
Cheers Tony.

[Alan O]

Came across this. I have previously seen the Pals wearing side caps in late 1914-15 with single scroll badges. This pic shows them wearing it also on the peaked caps - 2 with single scrolls and 2 with double scrolls.

[Luke H]

I’ve seen the attributed insignia of one William Eadey of the 14th (Service) Battalion (1st Birmingham), Royal Warwickshire Regiment.

It contained 3 shoulder titles, the bespoke 1st B’ham Pals badge plus a ‘standard’ Royal Warks cap badge, 4 blue overseas service chevrons and what I think was a very frayed lance corporal chevron.

The standard Royal Warks was not the furry beast die but actually quite a goggle eyed creature. The quality of the badge looked quite poor, presumably a product of wartime manufacture prior to them being issued the bespoke badge.

[Alan O]

That's my point it was not a linear progression. They wore both single and double scrolls at the same time in 1914-15. They wore side cap with single scrolls and peaked caps with single and with double scrolls.

The period photos show both is use in UK before they left for France.

After 1916 they would have been issued the standard badge and the originals were still wearing their doubles scrolls in 1918 photos alongside single scrolls.

[Luke H]

Yes Alan I understood and agree.

Merely my point was to highlight the single scroll badge worn by the Pals highly likely wasn’t the hairy beast in post #1.

[Alan O]

I see no reason that it could not be. They could not get regular badges so had their own design commissioned so I think it is possible that the die variance is because of that. The Regular pattern badges were certainly issued to the Pals Battalions 1916 onwards and if the Pals soldier was transferred to another battalion (the 3rd was disbanded before the end of hostilities) or returned to another battalion from hospital then they would have had to wear the normal badge.

Alan

[magpie]

I think orasot has a hairy beast that's makes to an outfitters so they could easily be privately purchased items.

[Alan O]

I am sure they are and not issued. The question is were they purchased by the Pals Association. We will never know but it would be a bit of a coincidence if it was not the same maker for the 3 unique characteristics to be present in both.