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Old 18-06-13, 07:50 PM
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Hi all,

I went trough my junk boxes and find few badges that I do not need and/or even don't know what they are.
I am planning to stick them up on sale, so any information regards the originality before that would be great. Also period when they are made and if you don't mind, any aprox. value.

1. Royal West African Frontier Force (RWAFF) collar badge. Maker marked.





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Old 18-06-13, 07:54 PM
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2. Victorian crown, Royal Artillery? I don't think it's a button but perhaps someone knows what it is? A sweetheart brooch?? Nice pin system on the back.



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Old 18-06-13, 08:02 PM
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3. Royal Scotish Fusiliers (???)



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Old 18-06-13, 08:08 PM
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For #3, I would go with General Service Corps.
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Old 18-06-13, 08:09 PM
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Oh, thank you very much!!
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Old 18-06-13, 09:43 PM
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Is number two a converted button as some regiments in the artillery wore ball buttons whilst others wore them on mess dress I think, but certainly looks to have been converted as a sweetheart.
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#3 = General List c.1915, value c. £9

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Old 19-06-13, 03:29 PM
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The RHA wear ball buttons.
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Old 19-06-13, 05:54 PM
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No 2 : the three guns one above the other make me think of the Ordnance Dept coat of arms.
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Old 19-06-13, 06:01 PM
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3. Royal Scotish Fusiliers (???)



Not worn by the General List, who were officers and wore it entirely in bronze, but worn by both the Labour Corps and Volunteer Force in WWI.

Worn by the General Service Corps in later years.
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[QUOTE=phaethon;217287]2. Victorian crown, Royal Artillery? I don't think it's a button but perhaps someone knows what it is? A sweetheart brooch?? Nice pin system on the back.

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Royal Regiment of Artillery 1855-1873 button.

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Old 19-06-13, 08:40 PM
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Not worn by the General List, who were officers and wore it entirely in bronze, but worn by both the Labour Corps and Volunteer Force in WWI.

Worn by the General Service Corps in later years.
Are you sure?

Looks very similar to this one:

http://www.sellmymilitaria.com/site/...915&Itemid=477 which is O/R, G/M.

The Labour Corps wore the "General Service" royal arms in brass, upon their formation, Jan 1917, - October 1918, when
their new badge was approved.
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Old 19-06-13, 08:47 PM
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"General List" to the left and "General Service" right
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I am with Graham. I associate badge 3 with the VTC and Labour Corps in
WW1. As far as I am aware the General List refers to officers only but happy to be corrected. I personally would value it at around £6.

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Mark: There is a marked difference in size between the two badges I pictured.
How is that explained?
From what I can make of what you and Graham are saying, is the General List is officers only. And entirely in bronze.
So basically, a General Service badge in bronze = General List officers, and brass = VTC/Labour Corps?
What about prior to 1916? (VTC, Labour Corps?)

I find very little information on this on the forum and web.

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