This mornings purchases, help please

[biffrocks]

Hi
Picked up these badges this morning. I feel fairly confident the Tanks Corps badges are ok but am not sure about the Notts & Derby with the type of slider and England on it. The plastic Tank Corps is made by A Stanley's in Walsall so am guessing it's WW2 Economy badge?
I am also unsure as to whether the other badge with lugs is military at all but they were all together so thought I would post on here to see if anyone can advise.
Would welcome any opinions or help.

Thanks

Rob

[Jibba Jabba]

I believe everything to be genuine.

Perhaps the Notts and Derby regiment owners surname was England?

The badge you cannot identify is the so called "bit badge" worn by saddle tree and harness makers.

The Tank Regiment plastic is a lot harder to find than the RAC counterpart. I'm sorry that I dont have an up to date value to give you on one of those. Someone two years ago suggested 40 pounds?

[biffrocks]

Originally Posted by Jibba Jabba

I believe everything to be genuine.

Perhaps the Notts and Derby regiment owners surname was England?

The badge you cannot identify is the so called "bit badge" worn by saddle tree and harness makers.

The Tank Regiment plastic is a lot harder to find than the RAC counterpart. I'm sorry that I dont have an up to date value to give you on one of those. Someone two years ago suggested 40 pounds?

Hi
Thanks for the info, it's very much appreciated, it has put a smile on my face with plastic Tank Corps as it's the one I really wanted and the lady selling wouldn't split them so I had to pay for all 4 badges which cost me £18 the lot which is a lot at the car boot if they turned out to be duds.
It was worth getting up after all.

Cheers

Rob

I don't think I have an 'England' MM badge to offer for comparison, perhaps other members might be able to help.

Here is the one shown in the forum database: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/mak...ks/england.htm

JJ may well have a point about the owner's name, though.

PJ

[Jibba Jabba]

The markings appears to be too uniform to of been struck by a letter punch. A manufacturer I have yet to identify perhaps? Someone here may know.

Your bit badge is missing two lugs. It is wll worth getting Dave to repair this badge. I have seen them at all sorts prices but most cavalry collectors will want to own at least one example.

[biffrocks]

Hi PJ
It was the style of the slider I was unsure of as I'd not seen one like that before. It looks to be stamped England rather than engraved so I am totally unsure what this means.

Just glad the badges are ok and I made no mistakes today.

Cheers

Rob

[49lassiepen]

England on the badge is not a surname, have a number of badges with ENGLAND sliders will post photos some latter date

Originally Posted by biffrocks

I am totally unsure what this means.

Point taken, Rob. Don't you just love collecting?

What is the join between the slider and the badge like... does it look okay?

Peter.

[biffrocks]

Originally Posted by Jibba Jabba

The markings appears to be too uniform to of been struck by a letter punch. A manufacturer I have yet to identify perhaps? Someone here may know.

Your bit badge is missing two lugs. It is wll worth getting Dave to repair this badge. I have seen them at all sorts prices but most cavalry collectors will want to own at least one example.

Hi
What sort of rough value would you put on it. I think I will send it to Dave but I am putting togther a few that need his magic touch.

Rob

[Jibba Jabba]

It is a badge that some people rate whilst others do not. I've paid 50p for that badge and on another occassion I've paid £40. Both were purchased from militaria dealers. So somewhere in the middle? There are a few different variations to colect. I have one with the round loops like yours and one with D lugs. I am sure I have one with steel lugs too. The badge was later replaced by a cloth badge with even more variations....... There are trade badge collectors here who have far more expertise on this topic than I.

As I am sure you are aware putting a price on a badge is very difficult because we have no price guides to work with. One day a dealer might decide to charge X, or several keen bidders at auction may bid up to X. Either could set the bar for a new price for a badge. What I have learnt, in my opinion, is that just because it says a badge is sold, it does always not mean that is the case. A lesson I think some people need to ponder before they make the the "how much" threads on this forum.

[biffrocks]

Originally Posted by Peter J

Point taken, Rob. Don't you just love collecting?

What is the join between the slider and the badge like... does it look okay?

Peter.

Hi Peter
I have put some more pics on which I hope will help. To me it doesn't lookmlike it's been messed with and has always been attached, but am happy to be corrected\if wrong.

Thanks

Rob

[biffrocks]

Originally Posted by Jibba Jabba

It is a badge that some people rate whilst others do not. I've paid 50p for that badge and on another occassion I've paid £40. Both were purchased from militaria dealers. So somewhere in the middle? There are a few different variations to colect. I have one with the round loops like yours and one with D lugs. I am sure I have one with steel lugs too. The badge was later replaced by a cloth badge with even more variations.......

As I am sure you are aware putting a price on a badge is very difficult because we have no price guides to work with. One day a dealer might decide to charge X, or several keen bidders at auction may bid up to X. Either could set the bar for a new price for a badge. What I have learnt about each case is that just because it says a badge is sold it does not mean it has sold. A lesson I think some people need to ponder before they make the the "how much!" threads on this forum.

Hi
I know what you mean about prices, only worth what someone is willing to pay. I only ask as I love the collecting and try to pay between £2 - £5 per badge so if I make a mistake it doesn't prove to be too costly and it's nice to know sometimes if you've had a good deal.

Cheers

Rob

Rob,

In my opinion (for what it's worth) the slider looks fine, mate.

Peter.

[biffrocks]

Originally Posted by Peter J

Rob,

In my opinion (for what it's worth) the slider looks fine, mate.

Peter.

Hi Peter
Thanks for your ok, much appreciated.

Rob

[grey_green_acorn]

Some examples of the Saddler and Harness Maker:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=23155