Victorian Black Watch - Page 4 - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

rmarsden · #46 11-08-17, 04:44 PM

2nd Bn Sgts glengarry badge.
White metal star with a GM voided overlay with a gilt wash. Same dies as post no 23, but overlay fixed by four copper wires.

rmarsden · #47 27-08-17, 07:23 AM

3rd (Dundee Highland) VBRH. 1887-1908.
This varient "IT" spelling and large lettering.

Advsmt · #48 27-08-17, 11:56 AM

Ron another great badge. One question that I have wondered about is manufacturers. I know you can differentiate between dies and certain manufacturers mark their badges. But do you know which other companies made badges? I'm just talking about O/R badges. Also was the die created by the manufacturer and used solely by them?

Bryan

rmarsden · #49 27-08-17, 01:56 PM

Bryan, with regard to BW badges as there are no sliders makers marks are few and far between. I have a J.Gaunt and R J Lawrie, and have seen a G. Tutill all with tablets. As you see from my 02-36 thread I have 12 different dies in 30 years, so how many were there in 130 years? Large manufacturers could sub contract work to independent die-sinkers and engravers no end of them in Birmingham.
Ron.

Advsmt · #50 27-08-17, 02:54 PM

Thanks Ron

rmarsden · #51 01-09-17, 09:10 AM

Silver plated ORs badge the arms of the cross cut off a brooch pin fitted, could be worn on the slouch hat or possibly a sweetheart.

rmarsden · #52 08-09-17, 10:10 AM

2VBRH Same die used as post nos 42.43, but die-struck in silver with silver loops. The material used is 16 gauge rather than the more usual 22 gauge.
Polish to highpoints.

rmarsden · #53 18-09-17, 04:27 PM

A most unusual Victorian officers glengarry badge by Kirkwoods of Edinburgh.
Silver plate and gilt with finely detailed lettering, the reverse fitted with belt loop and fastener. There is no evidence to suggest lugs were ever fitted. The sphinx has its own cotter pin fixing lug. Because of the thin space under the belt loop it would only fit a ladies elasticated belt, add the fact that the bottom point of the star has been removed I would suggest worn by an officers wife at regimental dances.

rmarsden · #54 18-10-17, 09:20 AM

Dundee Highlanders SBP 180-87.
Polished brass plate with a gilt star toned red,mounted with a WM overlay.

rmarsden · #55 26-10-17, 08:49 AM

5VBRH officers silvered pouch badge, screw fittings North & South.

Advsmt · #56 26-10-17, 02:02 PM

Very, very nice Ron. Don’t see many 5th VB badges. Excellent definition, are the cap badges to the same standard - often the Perthshire ones are out and out fakes or don’t seem to be as crisp. I realise this is an officers badge but I would have thought the O/R white metal would be of an equal standard?

Bryan

rmarsden · #57 26-10-17, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Advsmt

Very, very nice Ron. Don’t see many 5th VB badges. Excellent definition, are the cap badges to the same standard - often the Perthshire ones are out and out fakes or don’t seem to be as crisp. I realise this is an officers badge but I would have thought the O/R white metal would be of an equal standard?

Bryan

Bryan, here is the WM other ranks version with loops East and West.
This badge is also of good quality.

Advsmt · #58 26-10-17, 07:54 PM

Thanks Ron, I see what you mean.

rmarsden · #59 31-10-17, 10:57 AM

1897 pair of ORs WM collars Churchill 1160.
No hair no ears.

rmarsden · #60 05-11-17, 12:29 PM

Bryan, forgot this officers belt plate example with burnished letters and mirror finish dome backing.
Ex Hugh King.