SERVICE WOUNDED STRIPE - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

JIMBODIXON · #1 10-05-17, 04:41 AM

Hi Everyone,
I know this subject has been featured over time on the forum, but I have not seen this particular version before. The stripe is 2 inches long and on the back-plate there is reference to "No 2". I have seen a No.4. Is there a no.1 or 3. Does anyone know what the numbers mean? Also, the stripe is secured to the plate by bent over lugs - not the usual lugs on other examples I have seen.
Jim
PS - this is pretty special to me as my Grandfather 3018 Arthur Leslie Beattie 8th Battalion A.I.F would have been entitled to wear 3 of these as he was gassed and hospitalised on three seperate occasions.

magpie · #2 10-05-17, 07:13 AM

A couple more, I take it they are all wound stripes.

manchesters · #3 10-05-17, 08:18 AM

Jim,

In WW1 there were No.2 and No. 4 manufactured, the No.2's having the impracticable fold over tangs to the rear and were replaced by the loops on the No. 4.

I have never seen or heard of No.'s 1 & 3, but logic says they must have been created, but probably never accepted or made.

I have 2 different types of No. 2 and 8 different types of No. 4.

regards

manchesters · #4 10-05-17, 08:20 AM

Magpie,

Yes all wound stripes WW1 apart from the bullion.

Interesting to see the sew on metal wound stripe, not seen that before.
Does it look to have been manufactured like that or adapted by the wearer?

regards

magpie · #5 10-05-17, 04:14 PM

The stitch on stripe was made that way and not a converted no4 with a flat back, the bullion one seems to be made of golden colour silk with that herring bone pattern just as the metal stripes and is also the same length as the pronged version.

JIMBODIXON · #6 10-05-17, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by manchesters

Jim,

In WW1 there were No.2 and No. 4 manufactured, the No.2's having the impracticable fold over tangs to the rear and were replaced by the loops on the No. 4.

I have never seen or heard of No.'s 1 & 3, but logic says they must have been created, but probably never accepted or made.

I have 2 different types of No. 2 and 8 different types of No. 4.

regards

Thanks Simon,
That explains my questions completely. Any chance of posting pics of the 2 different types of No.2 ?
regards,
Jim

manchesters · #7 10-12-17, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by manchesters

Jim,

In WW1 there were No.2 and No. 4 manufactured, the No.2's having the impracticable fold over tangs to the rear and were replaced by the loops on the No. 4.

I have never seen or heard of No.'s 1 & 3, but logic says they must have been created, but probably never accepted or made.

I have 2 different types of No. 2 and 8 different types of No. 4.

regards

Well at long last I have proved there is indeed a No. 3 Wounded Stripe.

Manufacturer marked by both S.S. Ltd and also Marsh & Co. Birmingham.

Very rare and never seen another.

Both the stripe and the back plate are designated No. 3

regards

fairlie63 · #8 10-12-17, 05:30 PM

Nice find Simon. Russia braid in its original (braid) form came in different widths, known as russia braid No 3, etc. I have presumed the references to numbers on the metal examples refer to the width of the strip corresponding to its braid counterpart, No 4 certainly does. You might be able to confirm that having three numbers now!
Keith

manchesters · #9 10-12-17, 07:31 PM

Keith,

The widths of all the examples have no noticeable differences.

I believe the numbering is sequential in date of Patents Applied For/Pending.

The absence of any Wounded Stripe marked No. 1 is understandable as often is the case with the "first" example of a product. People dont immediately anticipate a "second".

The first 3 examples were unsuited to purpose and no doubt prone to breakages.

The only Patent I can find that was Accepted was for the No. 4 Wounded Stripe on 22.5.1918, albeit submitted on 22.5.1917 and no doubt worn well before acceptance.

regards

Rob Miller · #10 10-05-17, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by magpie

A couple more, I take it they are all wound stripes.

The twin cloth stripes shown left could be a post 1949 Civil Defence rank badge.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ctureid=112303

Rob

magpie · #11 10-05-17, 06:22 PM

Thank you Rob :-) looks like it.

JIMBODIXON · #12 10-05-17, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by magpie

A couple more, I take it they are all wound stripes.

Thanks for your input and pics, magpie.
regards,
Jim

Tinto · #13 10-05-17, 11:59 PM

Hi All,
An interesting thread.
In addition to those mentioned above, I have a wound stripe that had 4 tangs, now just three remaining.
Also a wound stripe marked "LAMBOURNE'S BIRMINGHAM" with back plate marked "UNTARNISHABLE STRIPE CHEMICALLY TREATED".
Cheers, Tinto

manchesters · #14 11-05-17, 07:01 AM

Jim,

See photo. One by Simon & Sons Ltd, Birmingham, a popular maker of both No. 2 and No. 4 Wound Stripes.

The other un-named.

Other makers of No. 4 Wound Stripes are ESCO & Lambournes

regards

JIMBODIXON · #15 11-05-17, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchesters

Jim,

See photo. One by Simon & Sons Ltd, Birmingham, a popular maker of both No. 2 and No. 4 Wound Stripes.

The other un-named.

Other makers of No. 4 Wound Stripes are ESCO & Lambournes

regards

Many thanks Simon. The one I have is by Simon & Sons Ltd.
regards,
Jim