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I am not a medals man, and had thought it was a toss up between the Paciific Star and the Burma Star, so I checked it out before I posted. This being the internet I looked for more than one source, and found three saying that the soldiers who fought at Hong Kong would have got the Burma Star. As you say "if they met the criteria". Example: http://www.onlinemedals.co.uk/medal-...als/burma-star
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Campaign Stars and Commemorative Medals Instituted for the 1939-45 War, The War Office, 11 June 1948
Pacific Star - qualifying land areas: Hong Kong 8.12.41 - 25.12.41. Burma Star - qualifying land areas: Hong Kong 26.12.41 - 2.9.1945 Keith |
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Then I stand corrected.
regards
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So would a soldier who fought in the Battle of Hong Kong and was then captured and held prisoner in Hong Kong eventually receive both stars? I'm thinking particularly of the late Max Cheng - HKSRA, then PW in Shamshuipo then escaped to China and joined BAAG and then to India - enlisted in the British Army and went into Burma as a Sgt interpreters with 3 GR. He returned to Hong Kong shortly after Liberation and served on as an Interpreter on War Crimes Investigation Unit. Mike
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The Pacific Star and the Burma Star were classed as alternative awards. Personnel whose service qualified for both these awards could only be awarded the star for which they first qualified. They wore a clasp to denote they had qualified for the second star, or a silver rose on the ribbon. So I guess he would only have qualified to wear the Pacific Star, but wore a clasp BURMA on it as well. Keith |
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Keith,
Thanks. I should have asked him when we met at Int Corps gatherings in HK. Mike |
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I am trying to find out a bit more about the gent in question. I have a name and know that he served for 7 years in the Army and then post-war enlisted in the RAF. |
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A soldier that was in 1 Middlesex from Normandy until the end of the war should have had the France and Germany Star.
The 15th Scottish did not fight anywhere other than NW Europe. No doubt individual soldiers could have had the Burma or Pacific Star as well, but that is as well, not instead of. Do you have the mans number? You might be able to tell something from that.
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He was a Corporal with the Middlesex Regiment, from 14 Apr 1939 to 7 Nov 1946. He was William Gatley, born 31 Dec 1918. |
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant his army number.
Army numbers were in "blocks", so it is possible to tell which regiment a soldier first joined. However, you know that information anyway. For example, my father had a KRRC number as he, and a number of others, ended up in 1st Middlesex when 9th Armoured Division sent people to 21st Army Group.
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Yes, the evidence points to him having joined-up with the Middlesex Regiment. Even if he joined-up with another regiment and was posted on to the Middlesex Regt, the metal shoulder title still suggests that he was in the regiment from 1939-1940. |
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. The RAF numbers "block" 4030000 to 4039999 was used at Cardington for regular enlistments from February 1948.
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