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Makers "Bagged" Mottoes thread.
Hi All
If you have a modern Motto that is still in its bag or its bag is with it still .......could you post an image of it here. Some makers might not have the NSN or any information on the bag ..... but please post it anyway {IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AA EITHER} First example with bag info on it :- A/A Other Ranks - MOD Issue Makers Mark : FIRMIN (Fat Firmin mark) Regiment : Queen's Royal Lancers FIRMIN & SONS LTD NSN: 8455-99-973-9382 DESC: QUEENS ROYAL LANCERS CAP CONT NO: 54039 PATT NO: 18552 DATE: 05/08/08 PROD CODE: 32QROLAN-CAP-VH-AA1-455
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 01-06-14 at 04:35 PM. |
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....from JSP 768 (Thanks Mike_2817)
Officers Pattern 30056 shown in the top right corner.... Both seen in Col R Hodge's book below.... ORs Pattern 18552 above and Officers Pattern 30056 below with their collars.
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Here is a poor shot of 9382
Tim
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Tim
Any chance of all the info typed out and a better pic front and back Also, whats the mark on the slider? Thats Pattern no 18552 again..... date: 10/03/79? or 09? ..... if its '09 I expect to see the fat Firmin mark.
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Griff,
The picture I posted is of an item NOT in my collection However, I have this one: FIRMIN & SONS LTD NSN 8455999739382 DESC QUEENS ROYAL LANCERS CAP BADGE CONT NO DC7AESL/4183 ITEM 11 FINISH SILVER ANODISED PATT NO18557 SIZE: DATE 21/08/06 PROD CODE 37QROLAN-CAP-VHAA1-155 Slider is marked FIRMIN (and lookd "fat") Tim
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Thats great Tim Still the same Pattern Number 18552 (see below)... thats good to see.
Also Product code = 32QROLAN-CAP-VH-AA1-455 If the thread progresses we should be able to go back in time and document the "back" changes in the AA motto. The Motto in that bag is identical to the 2008 bagged motto I have. Hopefully someone will have the "Old" Firmin AA Motto bagged and we will be able to see its pattern number.
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Tim
This is what I can make out from the image you posted in post #3 FIRMIN & SONS LTD NSN 8455-99-973-9382 DESC QUEEN'S ROYAL LANCERS CAP BADGE CONT NO DC*A E5** *18 Item 12 FINISH A/A SILVER PATT NO: 18552 Date **/08/09 <----? PROD CODE 37QROLAN-CAP-VHAA1-455
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QRL Officers SD Cap Motto (Mint in bag)
"Brass base, nickel plated then silver plated" Looped E/W with cotter pin On the bag:- FIRMIN & SONS PLC NSN 8455-99-130-3556 Desc: 17/21st LANCERS OFFICERS CAP BAD FINISH: D. SILVER PLATE Cont No: UC2C/3078 Item: 1 Patt No: 30056 Date: 26/11/04 product Code: 401721LA-CAP-SH-DSB-455
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Other Ranks AA
"fat" Firmin mark FIRMIN & SONS LTD NSN 8455-99-973-9382 DESC QUEENS ROYAL LANCERS CAP CONT NO DC38/3520 Item 9 FINISH: A/A SILVER PATT NO: 18552 DATE 23/09/10 PROD CODE: 37QROLAN-CAP-VHAA1-455
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro Last edited by GriffMJ; 11-06-14 at 07:15 PM. |
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Griff, if it helps your project, as promised find attached my Motto selection - including the two Firmin bags.
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...and the rest...
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Thanks Bess.... its the bagged ones that I am after
* I note an interesting LB&BCoLtd that I dont have though. I am hoping that some early bags will turn up 60s 70s 80s 90s so we can see the slider marks and back images. I am not sure if all the makers "bagged" them up like Firmin did?
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Quote:
I picked up some new Firmin badges from a surplus store a couple of years ago (HAC and a couple of Corps from memory) and they were wrapped in thin white tissue paper sealed with clear tape. I'm sure you know what I mean. Bess |
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Officers S/P SD Cap
QRL FIRMIN & SONS LTD NSN 8455-99-130-3556 Desc: 17/21st LANCERS OFFICERS CAP BAD FINISH: DSILVER BURNISH Cont No: DC3B/3520 Item: 2 Patt No: 30056 Date: 19/06/13 Product Code: 401721LA-CAP-SH-DSB-455
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