British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > Australian Military Insignia > General Topics

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23-10-17, 06:55 PM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default Question about Australian Service Numbers 2nd WW

Is VX 190 would/could be a service number.The reason I'm asking is I have acquired during this week-end three Australian slip-on, one of which is to an Australian Lieutenant Colonel with this number on the back. Can someone help.

Jo
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 23-10-17, 07:04 PM
Ironside410 Ironside410 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cairns FNQ
Posts: 202
Default

Hello Jo

VX190 is the service number of Andrew Mclean.

The V in the service number indicates he enlisted in the State of Victoria.

The number 190 indicates he was a very early enlistee, in fact if you check the WW2 Nominal Roll you will see McLean enlisted in November 1939 and served through until 1946.

Regards

Dennis
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 23-10-17, 07:18 PM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironside410 View Post
Hello Jo

VX190 is the service number of Andrew Mclean.

The V in the service number indicates he enlisted in the State of Victoria.

The number 190 indicates he was a very early enlistee, in fact if you check the WW2 Nominal Roll you will see McLean enlisted in November 1939 and served through until 1946.

Regards

Dennis
WOW that was quick,thanks a million for the information. Sadly I can't access the nominal roll (steam driven old computer.....) but, is it possible to have a quick overview of his service.
Thanks
Jo
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 23-10-17, 08:26 PM
slick_mick's Avatar
slick_mick slick_mick is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 4,281
Default

Here you go.

Service record

In addition to viewing this service record, you can also

produce a certificate of this service record
get help with the certificate
view an explanation of the service record details
request a full service record from the National Archives of Australia
permission for use of service badge for commemorative purposes

Service Record
Name MCLEAN, ANDREW THOMPSON
Service Australian Army
Service Number VX190
Date of Birth 22 Jun 1916
Place of Birth BRIGHTON, VIC
Date of Enlistment 2 Nov 1939
Locality on Enlistment MID BRIGHTON
Place of Enlistment SOUTH MELBOURNE, VIC
Next of Kin MCLEAN, BONA
Date of Discharge 15 Feb 1946
Rank Lieutenant Colonel
Posting at Discharge AASC 6 AUST DIV
WW2 Honours and Gallantry Officer of the Order of the British Empire
Prisoner of War No

Mick
__________________
Looking for Australian military books?

Regimental Books - Australian Unit History specialists

Chasing militaria? I recommend:

Militaria Online - Australian Militaria Sales
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23-10-17, 09:29 PM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default

Thank you very much Mick for your help,it is greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Jo
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 24-10-17, 12:39 AM
BWEF's Avatar
BWEF BWEF is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironside410 View Post
Hello Jo

VX190 is the service number of Andrew Mclean.

The V in the service number indicates he enlisted in the State of Victoria.

The number 190 indicates he was a very early enlistee, in fact if you check the WW2 Nominal Roll you will see McLean enlisted in November 1939 and served through until 1946.

Regards

Dennis
The "X" also shows that this man was a volunteer, a member of the 2AIF.

A soldier from Victoria who was in the Militia would have had just the "V" as a prefix.

Here is an interesting tidbit that I once read in a book about the Australians in Malaya. An Australian jockey was working in Singapore, or Malaya.

When the 8th Division arrived he volunteered for the 2AIF and was given the prefix "MX". M for Malaya.
__________________
Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 24-10-17, 02:04 AM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default

Thanks for the information.Interesting.
Jo
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 24-10-17, 08:16 AM
fairlie63's Avatar
fairlie63 fairlie63 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Claremont, Tasmania
Posts: 1,366
Default

Appointed LT in 2 Cav Div AASC on 1 Feb 1938, CAPT 6 Aust Div AASC 13 Oct 1939, DAQMG (Staff Learner) HQ 6 Aust Div 16 Jan - 17 Nov 1941, DAQMG HQ 1 Aust Corps 18 Nov 1941-14 Apr 1942, thereafter A and Q appointments on HQ First Aust Army, HQ 5 Aust Div, Advanced LHQ, LHQ, etc. MAJ 25 Feb 1942, T/LTCOL 6 Aug 1942.

Keith
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 24-10-17, 12:03 PM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fairlie63 View Post
Appointed LT in 2 Cav Div AASC on 1 Feb 1938, CAPT 6 Aust Div AASC 13 Oct 1939, DAQMG (Staff Learner) HQ 6 Aust Div 16 Jan - 17 Nov 1941, DAQMG HQ 1 Aust Corps 18 Nov 1941-14 Apr 1942, thereafter A and Q appointments on HQ First Aust Army, HQ 5 Aust Div, Advanced LHQ, LHQ, etc. MAJ 25 Feb 1942, T/LTCOL 6 Aug 1942.

Keith
Well Keith, Thank you very much,these are quite good informations.Your help is greatly appreciated.

And the reason i found this slip-on in a Montreal badges fair.*
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mon...&pid=132692736

Again many thanks to all Aussie that helped me.

Cheers
Jo


* With this slip-on there was two other slip-on for,I suppose, an H/Capt/Chaplain, having pips made with purple thread.
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.

Last edited by Voltigeur; 24-10-17 at 12:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-11-17, 04:47 PM
Voltigeur's Avatar
Voltigeur Voltigeur is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal,Canada.
Posts: 5,778
Default Questions about Australian slip-ons and badges

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltigeur View Post
Is VX 190 would/could be a service number.The reason I'm asking is I have acquired during this week-end three Australian slip-on, one of which is to an Australian Lieutenant Colonel with this number on the back. Can someone help.

Jo
G'day Gents, as a follow-up, I would like to show first the slip-on from my first question about Lt-Col. Andrew Thompson Maclean.
Second, I would like your comments on the two other slip-ons gotten at he the same time as the first one. What are they...for an Army Chaplain because of the pips purplish colour....???

Thirdly,the badges shown are, left,a 1stWW rising sun badge without any maker marks on the back.
The one on the right is a mystery. It is made of something resembling "plastic" with a slider made up of a piece of flimsy (very) metal strip painted brown.....it looks and feel very "home-made"....My question is. Is it a badge made to replace a lost one and made from an original one (a sand cast one).???

http://www.militaria.qc.ca/jo5.jpg

http://www.militaria.qc.ca/jo6.jpg

BTW,if any Australian collectors could be interested in those, please let me know.

Cheers all
Jo
__________________
"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." -

“There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”
Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003.

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese.

Last edited by Voltigeur; 05-11-17 at 04:49 PM. Reason: Adding new topics
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-11-17, 04:45 AM
Lancer 17 Lancer 17 is offline
Member 2010-21- Rest in Peace
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne Australia.
Posts: 1,459
Smile

G'day Jo

Re your Rising Suns, the first is a good English made with a slider, we have never made badges with a slider. It would be a WW1 issue. However some allege that the slidered RS were issued to the Light Horse, however I have one from a family member who was in the 22nd Battalion and know of one still on its slouch hat that belonged to a 24th Battalion man. So it could have been issued to any Aussie Digger.

The second one is pure rubbish and should be consigned to the nearest rubbish bin, sorry.


Re the slip on's I really cant say but maybe the ones with the purple colouring could be for Engineers and or Signals as the sigs were part of the Engineers in WW1 and their facing colour was purple.

Pm sent.

I hope that this helps.

Regards

Phil.

Last edited by Lancer 17; 06-11-17 at 04:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:11 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.