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Old 01-05-18, 08:19 PM
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Looks Italian, monarchy period. Greek is also a good contender

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Further to the above, I think a Fire Brigade badge is a good contender, although I have reservations about the shape of the flames, From what can be seen of the blades, they look typically continental and definitely not to be associated with Guards insignia.
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Old 01-05-18, 09:03 PM
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Default Guards hospital badge

I think that Bosleys also sold a cap badge similar to this with the cross blackened, of course I may be totally wrong about this badge due to the fixings. A photo of the reverse would be useful.

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Old 02-05-18, 09:32 PM
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Hi

Thank you so much for your help

Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I was looking for an email alert

I'll take a photo off reverse although it's had some I'll attempted work

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Old 02-05-18, 10:07 PM
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Thank you so much for your help

Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I was looking for an email alert

I'll take a photo off reverse although it's had some I'll attempted work

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Old 02-05-18, 10:14 PM
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Here's a a better photo I hope
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Sorry I'm rubbish at photos 😕
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Old 03-05-18, 08:12 PM
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Default Guards hospital badge

Well, from the look of things there was a similar fixing on the flames of the grenade now missing, I have had British and Colonial badges with double blades which this has, so my thoughts are this is a Guards hospital badge from the Boer War period.

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Old 03-05-18, 09:52 PM
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Well, from the look of things there was a similar fixing on the flames of the grenade now missing, I have had British and Colonial badges with double blades which this has, so my thoughts are this is a Guards hospital badge from the Boer War period.

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Thanks Rob

Why can’t I find any record or images of it? Could you advise where I may be able to get clarification or are you sure?

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I have just found I have two examples - sorry for no images - the cross is applied on both, rather than impressed each of mine has two distinct blades at reverse of lower flames - one east and one west.

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Bosleys 20 January 2010, lot 245. Gilding metal in appearance.
Bosleys 25 January 2012, lot 475. Possibly coated as OSD - BUT Gilding metal reverse

No of flame tips: 17 on each (as usual with each representing a letter of 'FIRST OF FOOT GUARDS' - as Grenadier Guards).

Always great to have a talking point such as this and I appreciate opinions will be divided. Personally I have some doubts as laid out my earlier post (14), although I was surprised to find my badges have two blades each (Mine look to be better quality than the example in this thread but who knows?)
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Old 04-05-18, 05:34 PM
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Could the badge shown in post no. 1 be missing an applied cross? It doesn't appear to be nearly finished in that area.
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Just added an image of Bosley 25 January 2012 example (post 24 above) - just checked - hammered at £275

Hi Leigh - The reverse shows no indentation to the ball of grenade

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These cap badges to the Guards Field Hospital are IMO unofficial, so who's to say which one is the genuine one, they both might be genuine ?! Just saying.
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Old 04-05-18, 10:46 PM
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These cap badges to the Guards Field Hospital are IMO unofficial, so who's to say which one is the genuine one, they both might be genuine ?! Just saying.
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Superb thread.
To add my tuppenceworth - I’d agree with Andy that this was probably an unofficial field modification.
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Old 05-05-18, 06:34 AM
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I would agree - there is scope for variation given that indeed the adaptation is probably unofficial. Blades to the reverse is - in my limited and out of date experience - quite unusual for Grenadier Guards. I can only ever remember seeing a couple of standard Bze OSD bladed examples with plain balls (never seen an OSD Bze with cypher/monogram). Specialist Guards collectors will be better informed than I am these days - my interest turned to Commando etc about 30 years ago although I still like to add unusual items to the rest of my collection.
Always interested in learning more.
A brief internet search has failed to provide me with any more leads on Guards Hospital - hoping someone else has better luck.
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Old 05-05-18, 03:38 PM
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This Bosley's auction of 6th September 2017 (item 278) is for a bronzed die stamped version of the badge although from the illustration it doesn't look bronzed.
279 is for a pair of cast brass collar badges.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...f-a7d600b90c53

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