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11-03-17, 05:58 PM
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It looks good to me, but the lugs/loops were unexpected. The Royal Irish Rangers wore the badges of the three amalgamated regiments on their piper's kilts. These kilt badges had lugs/loops so perhaps one of them.
Eddie 
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11-03-17, 07:30 PM
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The finish is rather strange, the colour and in particular the lack of detail on the obverse is worrying, it actually looks brand new, certainly not one I would buy.
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11-03-17, 07:58 PM
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Well, I was looking at the photographs in the original post and I stand by my opinion, even just a mere glance, in particular, at the final photograph, suggests that this badge is spurious.
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11-03-17, 08:34 PM
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This is SPN 5849 sealed 30/03/1903 [recorded in WO359/11 p218 and WO359/12 p154].
Re-sealed as SPN 5849A on 16/07/1907 with the slider moved. I don't share the exact same concerns as Frank with regard to the strike, certainly the fact that it is GM underneath is good. Regarding presence of the loops... As the FSC was retained for use in India till c. 1914 and, as far as I am aware, loops and pins were retained for use on this headdress even after the introduction of the slider for the Brodrick and Universal Pattern forage caps in use at home, it is quite plausible to me that this is a bone fide badge issued between 1903 and c. 1913 whose intended use was for the FSC. 1st R. Irish Rifles were stationed in India (with a short spell in Burma) from the turn of the century until 1912 when the battalion departed Kamptee for Aden. I have a badge such as this (with loops) in my own collection what do others think? John
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#9
11-03-17, 10:00 PM
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it looked blackened brass to me, but reading your post and looking again at some of the front images I can see why you question it. Monty please clarify the material of construction. John
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12-03-17, 01:42 PM
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It being WM changes things a great deal. I can't think of any good reason for a TC WM badge with loops.
I think you have come to the right conclusion and Frank's hunches were right all along. John
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#15
13-03-17, 11:04 PM
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Royal Ulster Rifles Black Hackle
I have one of these with lugs. Can't comment on originality of badge in the op, or mine come to that (I like it), but I was led to believe they were late or post WW2 RUR for wear in the caubeen with the black hackle. Perhaps these vets would know lugs or slider? Mike
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-cen...108794677.html http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...+rifles+hackle
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