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Old 05-03-17, 03:34 PM
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A group as described above. Punjab, Baluch, and 13 Lancers. These also being from my searches at the SOS show last week. The one question is the on white slide with the #77. Has anyone seen anything similar to this before? Or know what unit it might belong.

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The 77th Moplah Rifles were disbanded in 1907 and there was no 7th Bttn of the 7th Rajputs, only 1-5 and a 10th [as was common], so I suspect it is a battery or company number for Gunners, Service Corps or something similar. Just a guess.
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Just looks completely out of place, are we sure it's even British/Indian army?
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Fair question.
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Old 07-03-17, 03:23 PM
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Just looks completely out of place, are we sure it's even British/Indian army?
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It was part of the group as they were mounted on a board, however as mentioned a fair question. It was the odd man out in the group.
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The 77th Moplah Rifles were disbanded in 1907 and there was no 7th Bttn of the 7th Rajputs, only 1-5 and a 10th [as was common], so I suspect it is a battery or company number for Gunners, Service Corps or something similar. Just a guess.
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It turns out that there were both a "77th Field Company IE" and the 77th Infantry Brigade, latter 77th Airborne. The latter was formed in '42 with a Gurkha, a Nigerian and one British battalion and were Chindits. In '44 they were redisgnated 'Airborne'. In fact, apparently, in 2015 the British Army designated one of its brigades '77' to honour the memory of the Chindit outfit.

Not completely sure this is relevant, but for what it's worth.
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Old 08-03-17, 01:28 PM
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Peter, thank you again. Interesting information. In speaking with the vendor who these were purchased from, the group had belonged to the son of a retired US Army officer. He having served in WW2.

Your information will help point me in a direction.

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I don't think the 77 is regimental. Its white background suggests that it was the sort of badge worn by officer cadets whilst under training as a personal identifier making the individual anonymous but identifiable in training groups or syndicates.

The attached shows something similar for an officer cadet who was trained at OCS Mhow. The other photo shows a group of Indian WAC(I) with armbands which served a similar purpose

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That is interesting! I'd never heard of such a thing, but I suppose it makes sense, in a way. The instructors could assess, and berate, OCs without descending to personalities based on name [or caste or religion in the Indian context]. 'Cadet 77, you dozy bugger!'
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It seems that something similar still happens.

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I don't think the 77 is regimental. Its white background suggests that it was the sort of badge worn by officer cadets whilst under training as a personal identifier making the individual anonymous but identifiable in training groups or syndicates.

The attached shows something similar for an officer cadet who was trained at OCS Mhow. The other photo shows a group of Indian WAC(I) with armbands which served a similar purpose

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Thanks Jon, this looks like a good match for usage.
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