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Old 23-05-16, 11:31 AM
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Default Types of Drivers Badges

Please can anyone explain the difference between all the different badges worn by Drivers on BD? Is it to do with the "Class" of tradesman you are A,B or C or the types of vehicle you drove?

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Old 23-05-16, 02:36 PM
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STAR. 1923, First Class driver Tank Corps, became Driver Mechanic RTC NCOs, became in "modern times" 1950 Driver. An appointment badge

Wheel 1927, probably also during Great War, Driver. A skill badge, became a Prize badge, survived to and through WW II.

Wheel and star, wheel and crown ....... Prize badges between wars, survived, not necessarily as Prize, through to 1950.

The winged wheel MT does not seem to have a pedigree [as with so many other badges that were certainly worn over a very long period]

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Old 23-05-16, 03:03 PM
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Rob,

As Grumpy states, Edwards and Langly describe the wheel and crown and wheel and star badges thus, but attached is another explanation which I tend to think maybe only applied in their final years of use during WW2.

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Old 23-05-16, 03:20 PM
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Yes, I was only quoting from the book that I wrote with Denis.
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Old 23-05-16, 03:36 PM
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David,
I was not aware you were who you are.
Your book has been on my bookshelve since 1984 and there hasnt been a week that I have not consulted it.
It was Denis who first got me into collecting the badges that are in it!.

A most superb book and a you have my respect.

Getting back to the drivers badges what do you think of the descriptions in the pamphlet I showed?

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Old 23-05-16, 04:23 PM
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At the risk of muddying the already clouded waters of these drivers badges members might like to see the attached.

It is one of three sample boards sold at Bosley's some twenty years ago which were specimens of badges worn by the Free Dutch Forces in Britain. With the help of Dutch experts a member of the Military Heraldry Society has identified the badges shown and the explanations of the numbers relating to driving badges are shown below;
73 - Driver Instructor Qualification Badge. Instituted by M.O. of 1 March 1944. Worn on the left lower sleeve.
74 - Driver Engineer Qualification Badge. Worn on the left lower sleeve.
75 - Driver Qualification Badge. Instituted by M.O. No.2 of 25 April 1941. Cancelled by M.O. No.203.795 of 20 February 1955. Worn by Drivers and Despatch Riders on the left lower sleeve, 16cm from the lower seam to the centre of the wheel. Also worn by V.H.K. women drivers on the left sleeve 12 cm from the lower seam, and in brass on Red Cross best dress.
76 -Special Proficiency Pay Qualification Badge. As British usage.
77 -Motor Transport Qualification Badge. Cancelled by M.O. No.203.795 of 28 February 1955.

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Old 24-05-16, 04:35 PM
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David,
I was not aware you were who you are.
Your book has been on my bookshelve since 1984 and there hasnt been a week that I have not consulted it.
It was Denis who first got me into collecting the badges that are in it!.

A most superb book and a you have my respect.

Getting back to the drivers badges what do you think of the descriptions in the pamphlet I showed?

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Thank you for the kind words.

The publication illustrated is "Rank and Badges etc. My copy is 1942. Whereas I have no reason to doubt it regarding the drivers' badges, the whole book is a bit shaky with some howlers. Example Scout badges in 1942? Nah!
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STAR. 1923, First Class driver Tank Corps, became Driver Mechanic RTC NCOs, became in "modern times" 1950 Driver. An appointment badge

Wheel 1927, probably also during Great War, Driver. A skill badge, became a Prize badge, survived to and through WW II.

Wheel and star, wheel and crown ....... Prize badges between wars, survived, not necessarily as Prize, through to 1950.

The winged wheel MT does not seem to have a pedigree [as with so many other badges that were certainly worn over a very long period]




Hello sir,
Thank you for his clarification. I would like to help with qualification lapériode patch for WWII. I have no information on it. How they got them to you , you were there several levels , how to move from one level to another ...
Thanks for your help.
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Old 31-05-16, 11:00 AM
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Not sure which unit this Lady is with but the star presumably marks her role as a driver?

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Old 31-05-16, 11:58 AM
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Not sure which unit this Lady is with but the star presumably marks her role as a driver?

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Rob,

The star for Driver wasnt introduced until 1950 and this photo appears to be WW2.

Cant say what it is though.

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Old 31-05-16, 02:40 PM
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Rob,

The photo shows a Cadet officer of the Mechanised Transport Corps.

This extract from my MTC book explains the MTC's cadet officer system.

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Then there was this interesting turn-up, clearly an ASC driver, MT, Great war

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...pic=229102&hl=
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Old 01-06-16, 01:49 PM
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Hi Grumpy, can you describe it, I'm not a member of the Great War Forum so I can't see any pictures there.

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David,

Excellent photo clearly showing the MT in wreath badge worn by a Motor Transport driver of the ASC.

I didnt know they were worn so early as that.

I have attached my MT badges and I think the centre badge on the first photo maybe of that WW1 vintage.

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I have a picture (never seen the badge in the flesh) of an unknown drivers badge.

A so far unidentified 'RAOC' Trade Badge

Picture was published in the circa 1960 publication 'The Royal Army Ordnance Corps' a book describing the trades available in the RAOC and adverts of Ordnance related goods of the time.

Suggestions for the badge include 'Storeman/MHE' or 'MHE OP'

Badge is the 5 pointed star driver qualification within a circle.
Symbol is of the type painted onto allied vehicles in WWII for D-Day Landings.


Any ideas??
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