34Th, Armoured man in T force

[pentastar]

Hello all,i am the one who started the T force enquiry off,i will have to do some practice to get some clearer pictures from the photo,s,the vehicles have a formation badge on them i have not seen before,i am hoping to put a surname to the soldier whos photos they were eventually and expand his story,regards Colin

[Peter Brydon]

I am attaching some photos and other bits from the Kingsman magazine articles on 5th Kings/2 T Force OCA, I hope they are legible.

It is interesting that the sign shown by Paul which is on display on the battledress in the Liverpool Museum is a white "T" on a black square or oblong, whilst the representations of what I presume is meant to be their sign, is a white "T" on a black shield .

P.B.

[Paul Spellman]

Sorry if these pictures are not to clear as done on mobile and items behind glass
Description of items - Liverpool museum

[Paul Spellman]

Better image of battledress

[Paul Spellman]

Image of plaque as in description above

[Peter Brydon]

Thanks Paul,

I wonder if any of the cloth experts can tell us what the "144" sign signifies, I have not come across it before.

Peter

[Paul Spellman]

Hi Peter,
144th Regt RAC supported T Force. >>>incorrect
Paul
EDITED
Sorry read that wrong in the DofLancs Handbook

[Postwarden]

The 144 on the shield is not a cloth badge but a vehicle marking. All British military vehicles carried one on the opposite side of the vehicle to their formation sign, in this case that of 30 Corps. The background colour varied according to the arm of service black in this case indicating Corps HQ. The number indicated the actual unit and was a simple and secure way of identifying unit transport at a glance. A sample from the Guards Armoured Division shows both sign and number on a vehicle.

There are two books on this British Military Markings by Peter Hodges and a revised version by Hodges and Michael D Taylor but a quick look does not identify the unit which carried 144 but as the books explain there were many variations on the system.

Perhaps a vehicle signs expert can help further?

Jon

[Hussar100]

That's not me then. I can't even remember the signage from our own vehicles. apart from the name of an Irish town on either side.

[fearnaught]

Hi, don't think it helps but this is the wartime history, best wishes Mike

[pentastar]

I can not get a closer pic of arm badge than this.
A badge pin backed and brass sold for £34 on ebay during the day so i couldnt bid on it.

[grey_green_acorn]

Originally Posted by pentastar

Hello all,i am the one who started the T force enquiry off,i will have to do some practice to get some clearer pictures from the photo,s,the vehicles have a formation badge on them i have not seen before,i am hoping to put a surname to the soldier whos photos they were eventually and expand his story,regards Colin

For what it's worth the VW Beetle is pictured in front of the Reichstag in Berlin

Tim

[Hussar100]

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

For what it's worth the VW Beetle is pictured in front of the Reichstag in Berlin

Tim

I thought that was too obvious to remark upon - sorry.

[grey_green_acorn]

Originally Posted by Hussar100

I thought that was too obvious to remark upon - sorry.

Sorry!
I thought this thread was started with a photo by member pentastar not by you!

Tim

[Hussar100]

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

Sorry!
I thought this thread was started with a photo by member pentastar not by you!

Tim

I was only commenting. Don't get wound up. No offence was intended.

God I hate it when this happens.