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Old 17-09-14, 08:23 AM
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The Division was formed in the Union of South Africa on the 1st of February 1943.

It was formed mainly from units that had served in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd South African Divisions in the African campaigns.

Many new recruits joined who had volunteered for universal service. There was also a large Southern Rhodesian component.

After completing its training in Egypt, the Division landed at Taranto in Italy in April 1944. The Division saw a lot of action and was highly regarded as a fighting force.

It's role in the Italian campaign ended when the German forces in Italy surrendered on the 2nd of May 1945.

This collection and display took place over a long period of time and some of the original helmet flashes were extremely difficult to find.
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The 24th Independent Guards Brigade Group were under command of the Division.
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Will, A really excellent collection and well put together.
It must have been very difficult to find flashes in good condition.
I never realised there were also Rhodesians in the Division.

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Will

Very nice collection...well done. I have always thought this is a great collecting area. Badges are still around for the most part.

I picked up the Divisions Theme Song book last week in a Port Alfred shop...if no one knows what their theme song was .....it was Lili Marleen.

Iain there were a lot of Rhodesians involved, most seconded to SA Units but they had a Battery of Artillery as well.

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Hi Brian,

I knew Rhodesians were in N Africa, but not in the 6th SAAD.

Lily Marlene, (Lili Marleen,) is another story altogether and was actually the desert anthem in N Africa, originally broadcast by German Radio Belgrade for DAK, but picked up by both sides.
Sung by different artists for whichever side but the original by Lale Andersen, Marlene Dietrich for the Allies.
22h00 became Lily Marlene time in the desert.

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Will

Very nice collection...well done. I have always thought this is a great collecting area. Badges are still around for the most part.

I picked up the Divisions Theme Song book last week in a Port Alfred shop...if no one knows what their theme song was .....it was Lili Marleen.

Iain there were a lot of Rhodesians involved, most seconded to SA Units but they had a Battery of Artillery as well.

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Hi Will
Amazing collection and displays as usual.
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Nicely done. I always enjoy seeing collections that tell the story.

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Hello Iain,
I don't think that Anderson ever really had the pinup status enjoyed by Dietrich, my grandfather managed to keep almost all of his "covers" and "cut outs" until he was really rather old (I certainly remember seeing them as a boy) much to my grandmother's disgust.
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Hi Brian,

I knew Rhodesians were in N Africa, but not in the 6th SAAD.

Lily Marlene, (Lili Marleen,) is another story altogether and was actually the desert anthem in N Africa, originally broadcast by German Radio Belgrade for DAK, but picked up by both sides.
Sung by different artists for whichever side but the original by Lale Andersen, Marlene Dietrich for the Allies.
22h00 became Lily Marlene time in the desert.

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Will

Very nice collection...well done. I have always thought this is a great collecting area. Badges are still around for the most part.

I picked up the Divisions Theme Song book last week in a Port Alfred shop...if no one knows what their theme song was .....it was Lili Marleen.

Iain there were a lot of Rhodesians involved, most seconded to SA Units but they had a Battery of Artillery as well.

Brian
Most units in north Africa and Italy sang a version of Lili Marleen, words tended to differ with division etc. Any chance of seeing the words as sung by the Springboks?

Lady Astor, a Conservative MP, called the British troops in Italy the "D Day Dodgers" meaning they were trying to avoid the real fighting by being on a "sideshow" front.

Here is the soldiers reply, also to the Lili Marleen tune. It is attributed to one "Lance-Sergeant Harry Pynn". Note the verse dedicated to Lady Astor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hny_XRaw4
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Hi Frank,
you are probably right about pin up status but also remember as Germany became more on the back foot the opportunity or exposure became less and eventually nil.
I saw a documentary many years ago about the Lili Marleen enigma and apparently it became part of the war compensation; therefore Lale Andersen nil; GB/Dietrich 100%.
Wiki says it was written by a German Soldier in WWI but my doc said it was by a Swedish guy and therefore should never have war comp. Unless he became a German Citizen?
But Dietrich, whilst not that good looking was certainly a sexy babe
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