Please confirm my suspicions.

[High Wood]

I entirely agree with your comments and I bought this collection with my eyes wide open. We even took the back of the frame off and I pointed out the fakes and what I thought were the right ones. I offered to buy about eight of the badges and give him others to replace the gaps but he wisely didn't go for it.

Here are some of the right ones. Nothing rare but some are interesting.

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by High Wood

Some more of the fake badges.

Norfolks (later Pattern) and KOSB look OKish from the images?

Andy

[High Wood]

Andy,

thank you. The lugged (GW) Norfolk Regiment has the Mr Punch head whilst the WW2 version is very shiny, poorly struck and generally very flat. The KOSB I am less sure of; it doesn't seem to have a great deal of age. I will post close ups pictures of both badges.

Simon

[High Wood]

The Royal Norfolk Regiment.

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by High Wood

The Royal Norfolk Regiment.

Not the best strike, but I would be happy with it

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=90710

Andy

[High Wood]

The KOSB.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Robthereiver

Mike

I think you have misread my post, I was referring to Simon's 11H large gm. (Gilding metal) badge, not to those of White metal, silver plated, silver or HM silver as described in L&D on pages 103 to105 which most definitely are Arm badges.
So no, there is no doubt as far as I can see, nothing has changed.
Rob

Rob

My Apologies Rob! Anyway I don't think there's anything too complex about these brass arm badges - I'm convinced they are re-strikes in the wrong metal out of a pair of surviving original dies for the last white metal ones. Probably from the 70s when they ramped up production of the dodgy stuff!

[Phil2M]

I am glad I read the whole thread before replying, as I was going to say the R Norfolks and KOSB look okay to me. I don't think clean wm is always a problem. The R Norfolks could be a Narborough or Lambourne, quality not so great!

Phil

[High Wood]

That is good to know so off to E--y for them. (I have to recoup some of the cost of the collection somehow).

I will be keeping these. The LRB has been broached but has had a slider at one time. The LRB badge often seems to end up being brooched; I now have three different broached examples.

I am also pleased with the KRRC and the General Service badges.

[wright241]

Originally Posted by 8thfoot

Over the last two years I have been offered at least two large collections which in the words of the sellers where " their father collections started during WW2 and so all genuine badges "
Sadly in both cases ( and I don't know if the sellers were saying what they believed to be the case ) other than a few good badges, the rest were well known duds.

In each case I made excuses and left, the irony being that in one case the seller was in touch months later and told me that he had sold the badges individually through E bay and was pleased with the prices he had achieved.

I always think that if you had, during your life, been a keen collector hunting out choice items ,it is unlikely that once you have gone your heirs would not have some idea of the value of your collection and would not offer it to the owner of the local Antique/ Junk shop for whatever they might be prepared to pay.

P.B.

PB,
Never mind the "their father collections started during WW2 and so all genuine badges " - which makes me very suspicious. Soon, of course, we will hear that they are all from "their father collections started during the 60's/70's and so all genuine badges ". Oh I forgot, that's what a lot of ebay sellers use... Silly me.

[Robthereiver]

Originally Posted by Mike

My Apologies Rob! Anyway I don't think there's anything too complex about these brass arm badges - I'm convinced they are re-strikes in the wrong metal out of a pair of surviving original dies for the last white metal ones. Probably from the 70s when they ramped up production of the dodgy stuff!

Mike

No problem, and I agree you are possibly quite right about these brass badges, they could have been struck from old arm badge dies. However we may never know.

Regards

Rob