1st Division Insignia

[loupie1961]

First pair, both insignia white felt on red felt: I guess they are WWII, am I wrong? Second pair: a couple of uncut Bevo white triangles on red, presumable vintage? Two different pairs of 1st Division Signals: both authentic, or is the round onemade up? Thank you for your attention!

[badjez]

I think the first pattern were made of white leather on a red felt triangle. Probably a unique method of manufacture in WW2.
Regards, Stephen.

[cymro]

Originally Posted by loupie1961

is the round onemade up? Thank you for your attention!

The 1st Div sign on a black square or circle was brought up in the FS recently - no answer forthcoming yet. I bought mine as RASC to the division, but have no confirmation of this. 1 Div was a real oddball - here's one that I have. Apparently mobile elements of the RAMC within the division, the static elements having a square backing. No confirmation...

[loupie1961]

Originally Posted by badjez

I think the first pattern were made of white leather on a red felt triangle. Probably a unique method of manufacture in WW2.
Regards, Stephen.

Hello Stephen, thank you for your reply... to tell you the truth, I had it the other way, that the leather or leatherette examples shoud be post war...

[loupie1961]

First one is a white triangle on a black square... any specific meaning of the square? possible era?

[loupie1961]

and the second is a lovely epaulette slip on, with a white triangle backed in red (infantry) and a brass Loyals shoulder title on a red tab: any hints about the significance of the red tab?

[rolfi]

The red loop below the "Loyals" title is a company indicator. Somewhere I've a list; I'll try and find it.

[loupie1961]

Originally Posted by rolfi

The red loop below the "Loyals" title is a company indicator. Somewhere I've a list; I'll try and find it.

thank you Rolfi, I'd be very grateful if you could, because this was my guess too, but I can't really say what company the red strip could refer to....

[rolfi]

HQ Company: black
A Company: red
B Company: blue
C Company: green
D Company: yellow
Support Company: brown

[loupie1961]

Originally Posted by rolfi

HQ Company: black
A Company: red
B Company: blue
C Company: green
D Company: yellow
Support Company: brown

great, thanks!

[fearnaught]

Hi, some more, the Bevo is, I believe, of the mid-war period, the two slip-ons are Italian theatre and the armoured is late 40's. The ones on a round backing are late or post-war. I once saw a nurse's jacket, badged lining, and some of these were in the pocket. Mike.

[mjm34]

Originally Posted by loupie1961

First pair, both insignia white felt on red felt: I guess they are WWII, am I wrong? Second pair: a couple of uncut Bevo white triangles on red, presumable vintage? Two different pairs of 1st Division Signals: both authentic, or is the round onemade up? Thank you for your attention!

The first pair may well be WWII but were definitely also used post-war. I wore the white felt on red felt triangles on the old green combat jacket when I joined 1 Div HQ & Signal Regt in 1969. When we were issued with the DPM combat kit (1971-ish?) the Div flash was made of printed cotton I think.

[loupie1961]

One Bevo a two 3rd Infantry Brigade cloth insignia

[loupie1961]

Here come the insignia sewn to the sleeve of a BD blouse badged to a major of the Royal Signals in the 1st Division. The combined device is a leather white triangle sewn on a blue cloth diamond. Any hints about its vintage? The BD blouse being a 1937 pattern tailor made hasn't got any dated tag for obvious reasons...

[Graham Stewart]

Originally Posted by loupie1961

First pair, both insignia white felt on red felt: I guess they are WWII, am I wrong? Second pair: a couple of uncut Bevo white triangles on red, presumable vintage? Two different pairs of 1st Division Signals: both authentic, or is the round onemade up? Thank you for your attention!

First pair are almost the same as worn by my father who was in the Grenadier Gds post-WWII. Think he joined c.1947 and left about 1952/53. Seem to recall one that I have might even be a white leatheret triangle on a red felt triangle, but everything is back in the UK, so can't be certain.