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Old 02-06-17, 01:28 AM
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Does anybody know if the Australian Corps of Signals 1906 - 1912, wore a curved metal shoulder title CAS, assuming Corps Australian Signals. The arm badge for that period has the letters ASC embroidered. (Australian Signal Corps). Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 02-06-17, 02:46 AM
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Hi Phil

Graham Donley's Signals and Signallers Badges of the Australian Army 1870-2006 shows a straight brass title CAS. Perhaps the Victorians had a curved title in these letters like the AFA and AGA titles. Orders for Dress and Clothing 1906 provided for the letters CAS as a title.

The name of the corps at that time was Corps of Australian Signallers and I doubt they wore ASC in cloth, not being raised until 1906, at which point cloth titles were abolished and replaced by metal titles. ASC was used by the Army Service Corps.

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Old 02-06-17, 03:06 AM
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Thanks very much Keith, I may have read the letters wrongly on the arm badge. I have purchased a metal shoulder title CAS from a dealer, I will post it here when I receive it.
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hi guys
another unusual title I think was worn by the signal corps was
"signallers"
can anyone confirm when this title was worn?
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Old 02-06-17, 05:17 AM
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hey phil
that's a lovely pic of what is a rare looking patch. I've never seen one before.
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Old 02-06-17, 06:25 AM
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That's the one bc in the photo of the South Australian quota of AIF signallers from 107 Bty, 23 How Bde in 1916 that regularly appears for sale on ebay and has been lifted from the State Library of SA online photo collection. The bloke wearing that also has Aust Corps of Signallers hat and collar badges.
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Old 02-06-17, 09:19 PM
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The same bloke is wearing shoulder titles that are very hard to make out, but are different to the two blokes on his left. Three of the soldiers are holding signalling flags.

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Default SIGNAL and SIGNALS

A couple of other variations for comment. The brass SIGNALS appears to be cast and I have always believed it was Australian.
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Kingsley

Yours matches one I have in my collection as per the attached photo.

I have also included a picture of another two signal titles I have for info.

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And another
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Default More Signals titles

To add to Dennis' post here are more...all different, and I have always thought to be Australian.
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Old 04-06-17, 06:23 AM
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Thanks for the photos, never seen either the 4/CAS or SIGNALLERS.
Any more comments about the SIGNALS title?
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Yes, thanks for showing some very nice titles.
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Yes, some nice titles there, another neglected aspect of Australian collecting. I have previously had a brass ENGRS title very similar to that SIGNALS title Kingsley, it had previously been blackened.

WJ Amor and Stokes & Sons Pty Ltd made SIG CO and SIG TR titles which might explain some differences in those.

No 4 Coy, CAS, was a Victorian unit. It is interesting that the Victorian field and garrison arty, signallers and ASC (as well as some of their LH and Inf) used curved AFA AGA CAS and ASC titles while units of most other states had straight titles. Tasmanian AFA and AGA units also used curved titles until about 1912.

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G'day Phil.

From memory the titles at the sigs museum with the 1st issue large crossed flags badge (like mine) is just the word SIGNALLERS. I don't remember seeing any letters with this badge. I have moved house so haven't been to the museum for 6 months but will go before the end of the month and will check then.

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