Which Regiment?

[ubervamp]

Hi guys

Quick question:

During WW1, would the local regiment for someone living in Stoke-on-Trent or Newcastle-under-Lyme be The North Staffs or South?

Cheers

C.

[Peter Brydon]

North.


P.B.

[ubervamp]

Originally Posted by 8thfoot

North.


P.B.

Cheers Peter!

Colin

[REMEVMBEA1]

To be correct they would have been in the
The Prince of Wales's (North Staffordshire ) Regiment , it wasn't until 1921 that they became The North Staffordshire regiment (The Prince of Wales's)

[Mike H]

Originally Posted by ubervamp

Hi guys

Quick question:

During WW1, would the local regiment for someone living in Stoke-on-Trent or Newcastle-under-Lyme be The North Staffs or South?

Cheers

C.

If you go into the centre of Newcastle ,there is a building related to the N.Staffs is its still there.If I remember correctly there is a stone engraving above the gates of the cap badge.

[Peter Brydon]

Mike,

I think this may be the building but sadly no photo on the "Drill Hall Project " website.
http://www.drillhalls.org/Counties/S...eUnderLyme.htm


P.B.

[ubervamp]

Originally Posted by REMEVMBEA1

To be correct they would have been in the
The Prince of Wales's (North Staffordshire ) Regiment , it wasn't until 1921 that they became The North Staffordshire regiment (The Prince of Wales's)

True that

I've been doing a bit of research, and it turns out my family on my Fathers side hails from up your way Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent, etc.

Cheers,

Colin

[Union Jack]

The traditional dividing line for recruitment to the North & South Staffs was the old A5 road.
Looking at a map now it appears that only a very small segment of county is below the A5, but bear in mind the county borders changed in the 1960's and most of what was South Staffordshire is now the West Midlands.
Thus the barracks at Whittington was much more centrally located than it now appears to be.

[Graham Stewart]

Originally Posted by 8thfoot

North.


P.B.

Not necessarily - it's a complete myth that our County Regiments recruited entirely locally, even pre-WWI and it's only among the Militia/Special Reserve, Volunteers and Territorials that you can guarantee a local man enlisting into the County Regiment.

At the begining of the Great War the recruitment of local men into the County regiment became a recruiters dream, although it didn't necessarily mean you stayed with your regiment. A large number of men recruited into Northern Command regiments were, within a short space of time, all transferred to - the Royal Naval Division.

[Peter Brydon]

Graham,

I agree but the question was

"would the local regiment for someone living in Stoke-on-Trent or Newcastle-under-Lyme be The North Staffs or South?
"

Not "In which regiment might someone from Stoke on Trent of Newcastle -under -Lyme have ended up ? "


My maternal Grandfather who was from Liverpool enlisted into the 2/5th Kings Liverpools but was shortly after transferred into the Herefordshire Regiment , a county he had probably never set foot in.

P.B.

[Mike_2817]

Originally Posted by Union Jack

The traditional dividing line for recruitment to the North & South Staffs was the old A5 road.
Looking at a map now it appears that only a very small segment of county is below the A5, but bear in mind the county borders changed in the 1960's and most of what was South Staffordshire is now the West Midlands.
Thus the barracks at Whittington was much more centrally located than it now appears to be.

It was the Local Government Act 1972 that reformed local government in England and Wales in April 1974 which formed metropolitan counties such as the West Midlands

My home town changed from the West Ridings to North Yorkshire overnight!

[Graham Stewart]

Originally Posted by 8thfoot

Graham,

I agree but the question was

"would the local regiment for someone living in Stoke-on-Trent or Newcastle-under-Lyme be The North Staffs or South?
"

Not "In which regiment might someone from Stoke on Trent of Newcastle -under -Lyme have ended up ? "


My maternal Grandfather who was from Liverpool enlisted into the 2/5th Kings Liverpools but was shortly after transferred into the Herefordshire Regiment , a county he had probably never set foot in.

P.B.

I stand corrected Sir, and should have read it properly. Interesting your comment on your grandfather going to the Herefords, as it's well known that there was a large movement of men from the well recruited Cities of the North & Midlands to the less well recruited 'Rural' regiments, with no large urban populations.

[NorthStafford]

Just a word of caution here,
Lance-Sergeant John Daniel Baskeyfield V.C.
Unit : Anti-Tank Platoon, Support Company, 2nd Battalion The South Staffordshire Regiment. Army No. : 5057916.
was born and lived in Burslem which is part of Stoke on Trent (And the location for the Arnold Bennet novels)

[Union Jack]

Agreed yes, but the original question concerned WW1. And generally speaking the answer was right. WW2 is a totally different kettle of fish.

[yorkstone]

North Staffs Possibly it is also possible that he could be RFA as Stoke had its own RA Battery.

however my Great Grandfather was from Longton Stoke on Trent Started with N/Staffs TX South Staffs TX Royal Welsh Fusiliers and after a period in Hospital in France ended up in the ASC

so could be any

regards

Stephen

Collecting to Stone Staffordshire and surrounding Towns and Villages. In particular the whereabouts of my Great Uncles medals

14 Star Trio 1st Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment to 9605 Pte H Taylor known to be serving with A Coy 1915

also his brother location of his British War and Victory to 12125 Pte W.J Taylor serving with 5th Batt R.F. 1915. I have his 14/15 Star.