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Old 30-12-09, 11:30 PM
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I have saved up a few more to identify if anyone would care to do so. Ray
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Old 31-12-09, 12:10 AM
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The Red/Blue/Red looks like a First Canadian Army formation badge. Position it with the stripes horizontal...

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Old 31-12-09, 12:35 AM
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Hi,

The the first formation sign: Red and White diamond with Green central stripe: Northern Rhodesia Regiment.

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Zob.
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Old 31-12-09, 08:11 AM
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Second sign (blue bars on red shield) is Royal Engineers Training Brigade worn post WW2 to the 1960s.
Third sign (white over blue) looks like a Royal Signals (airborne) drop zone flash if about 70mm x 70mm
Fourth sign (red on blue?) could also be a drop zone flash depending on size and exact colours
Fifth sign (blue bar on diamond) worn with blue bar east-west is 1st Canadian Army WW2

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Old 31-12-09, 03:15 PM
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Thanks fellows 50% is pretty good. Grey Green, for what and how long is a drop zone flash used and when did they come into use.I guess I could say why are they used Ray
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Thanks fellows 50% is pretty good. Grey Green, for what and how long is a drop zone flash used and when did they come into use.I guess I could say why are they used Ray
The airborne forum members will surely provide more detail but my understanding is that drop zone (DZ) flashes were introduced for the British Army Airborne forces (delivered by parachute) in the post WW2 period and some designs are still in use today. Originally to be worn on one or both arms of the camouflaged Dennison Smock they serve as a unit identifier to enably rapid rallying on the DZ immediately after landing. Early DZ flashes were made up from various materials - mainly felt and coloured ribbons and were usually about 70mm x 70mm square. They were often locally produced by unit tailors and parachute riggers. For example the dark blue flash of 2 PARA could be made up from PT shorts! Later printed issues were produced and more complicated flashes (e.g. 10 PARA) were woven or embroidered. DZ flashes are still worn by units of 16 Air Assault Brigade and are the precursors of the "Tactical Recognition Flash" (TRF) now worn by most, if not all, British Army units on combat dress including UBACS shirts (by velcro) and on some types of body armour, helmets and floppy hats.

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Grey Green, where they used during WW2?
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Again I stand to be corrected by Airborne specialist collectors but my understanding is that DZ flashes in the form of 70mm x 70mm coloured cloth squares were not worn in WW2 but were introduced shortly thereafter and may have been first worn in a limited form on operations in Palestine 1945-47. Their first photo documented major use was during the Suez operation in 1956.

However, during Operation VARSITY, the airborne assault across the Rhine in March 1945, there is photographic evidence that men in some units had large (300mm) geometric shapes painted on the backs of their sleeveless oversmocks or made up in tape and sewn on the backs of dennison smocks as an aid to unit cohesion and rallying on the DZ.
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The the first formation sign: Red and White diamond with Green central stripe: Northern Rhodesia Regiment.

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Zob.
Also just as likely the 2nd pattern Australian and New Guinea Administrative Unit (ANGAU) 1944-47.
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If the last one (blue/white diagonally divided) has a maroon border and is about an inch or so square, it's probably a Senior Boy Scout patrol badge.
Sorry to be so tardy in posting this but I've only just noticed it.
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