The Royal Scots QVC Plaid Broach - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

mooke07 · #1 17-05-15, 10:18 AM

Hi all,

A very heavy WM unmarked plaid broach for The Royal Scots with stout pin. QVC and presume post-1872 when the regimental title changed from 1st (The Royal) Regiment of Foot to The Royal Scots (The Lothian Regiment).

I have seen some of these described as a pipers plaid broach.

Cheers Dean

Alex Rice · #2 17-05-15, 01:01 PM

I don't know much about these but I think this pattern was used right up to the formation of the Royal Reg of Scotland in 2003. Be nice if somebody could confirm this.
Cheers,
Alex

mooke07 · #3 18-05-15, 11:41 AM

Thanks Alex - I am sure there are some Scottish regiment specialists who may be able to help, looking forward to further guidance, cheers Dean.

DJT · #4 18-05-15, 09:39 PM

The Royal Scots & KOSB became The Royal Scots Borderers, 1st Battalion The Royal Regiment of Scotland in 2006. These brooches are still worn by members of the 1st Battalion P&D. See the photo attached.

mooke07 · #5 18-05-15, 10:20 PM

Thanks Des great to see a QVC badge still in use today. I would have thought that that this would cross a boundary with the establishment about not representing the ruling monarch appropriately.

Cheers Dean

Alan O · #6 19-05-15, 07:26 AM

Dean

I know of at least one KOSB officer wearing a silver QVC badge on their amalgamation. A number of officers had them privately made in the 1990s.

Alan

DJT · #7 19-05-15, 11:00 AM

The following is stated in the dress regs.

Royal Regiment of Scotland pipers and drummers wear antecedent uniform in ceremonial dress. In the 1st Battalion, pipers are dressed as Royal Scots and drummers are dressed as KOSB. The cap badge and buttons of The Royal Regiment of Scotland are worn without exception.

mooke07 · #8 19-05-15, 11:50 AM

Many thanks Alan and Des - always happy to learn, cheers Dean.

Alex Rice · #9 19-05-15, 05:35 PM

Here's a KOSB badge hallmarked in the '70's. To me the crown looks Victorian more than post 1952 so I contacted the regimental museum who confirmed that this style was common for officers post 1952.
Cheers,
Alex

mooke07 · #10 20-05-15, 08:15 AM

There are always new things to learn with our fascinating hobby, many thanks Alex.

Peter Brydon · #11 20-05-15, 09:49 AM

I seem to recall that many years ago when I visited Edinburgh Castle, plaid brooches like this one were being sold in the shop in the Royal Scots Museum.

They were of surprisingly good quality and reasonably priced.

P.B.

mooke07 · #12 21-05-15, 11:07 AM

Thanks Peter,

I wondered about the age of the badge and then compared it another plaid broach I have to the 4/5th Royal Scots (thanks Eric for noting an original error I had as had attributed incorrectly to HLI). Maybe all from a similar original source, cheers Dean.

Peter Brydon · #13 21-05-15, 07:02 PM

Dean.

Looking at the picture of the rear of the Brooch which started the thread , it appears to have some age. I think it is sometimes very difficult to date items where the same design has been used without change for many years.

Peter

mooke07 · #14 21-05-15, 10:12 PM

Yes thanks Peter,

I had originally thought it was quite aged but age is often quite relative on WM badges in my view and as I now appreciate the wide span of possible wear it could be 40 years old or 100 hundred or so.

Cheers Dean